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All face authentication schemes are a joke and can be broken soon after release. Fingerprint auth can be broken, too, but it's orders of magnitude more difficul

by mtgx 9y ago

All face authentication schemes are a joke and can be broken soon after release. Fingerprint auth can be broken, too, but it's orders of magnitude more difficult to "clone" someone's fingerprint than it is to copy one of their pictures from the internet, or from a CCTV camera, etc. Even if the system uses infrared or 3D images or whatever, it's just a matter of developing an advanced enough algorithm to deal with that, which shouldn't take that long if the target market is there (hundreds of millions of iphones with such an auth system).

yladiz 9y ago
If someone is going to 3D print your face, they're determined enough to get into your phone regardless.
- supermdguy 9y ago
  Even the FBI had trouble getting into an iPhone. 3D printing a face might be a real solution in situations like that. Of course, for the average person, face id is probably just as secure as touch.
  - yladiz 9y ago
    It will still have the same constraints as normal TouchID, so it will lock after 48 (72?) hrs and will only unlock with passcode. It might be marginally easier for FBI but I imagine 3D printing an acceptable face will be tough, especially if it uses IR on top of 3D cameras.
bluthru 9y ago
>All face authentication schemes are a joke So were fingerprint scanners before Apple's take on it. >but it's orders of magnitude more difficult to "clone" someone's fingerprint You can do this by taking a photo of a finger or lifting a print. >copy one of their pictures from the internet, or from a CCTV camera, etc. A 2d photo won't unlock FaceID. There are 3D sensors on the front for a reason. >Even if the system uses infrared or 3D images or whatever, it's just a matter of developing an advanced enough algorithm to deal with that, which shouldn't take that long if the target market is there (hundreds of millions of iphones with such an auth system). And you think 3D printing a skull, eyes, and possibly blood vessels is easier than copying a finger? Why do you act like you know so much about something that hasn't been tested in the wild?

by mtgx 9y ago

yladiz 9y ago

If someone is going to 3D print your face, they're determined enough to get into your phone regardless.

supermdguy 9y ago
Even the FBI had trouble getting into an iPhone. 3D printing a face might be a real solution in situations like that. Of course, for the average person, face id is probably just as secure as touch.
- yladiz 9y ago
  It will still have the same constraints as normal TouchID, so it will lock after 48 (72?) hrs and will only unlock with passcode. It might be marginally easier for FBI but I imagine 3D printing an acceptable face will be tough, especially if it uses IR on top of 3D cameras.

bluthru 9y ago

>All face authentication schemes are a joke So were fingerprint scanners before Apple's take on it. >but it's orders of magnitude more difficult to "clone" someone's fingerprint You can do this by taking a photo of a finger or lifting a print. >copy one of their pictures from the internet, or from a CCTV camera, etc. A 2d photo won't unlock FaceID. There are 3D sensors on the front for a reason. >Even if the system uses infrared or 3D images or whatever, it's just a matter of developing an advanced enough algorithm to deal with that, which shouldn't take that long if the target market is there (hundreds of millions of iphones with such an auth system). And you think 3D printing a skull, eyes, and possibly blood vessels is easier than copying a finger? Why do you act like you know so much about something that hasn't been tested in the wild?