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This isn't just about the welfare of current renters. The city (and the people in these quarters) are also concerned about the changes a neighbourhood experienc

This isn't just about the welfare of current renters. The city (and the people in these quarters) are also concerned about the changes a neighbourhood experiences when the population changes. What often happens is that these cheap but beautiful areas attract students/artists/etc, who create (or support) lots of businesses and events that make the area attractive. When the lawyers/doctors/etc replace them, they destroy exactly what it was that attracted them to it in the first place. (I live about 300m from the building discussed in the article)

Jdam 9y ago
So from an economic point of view (that is lacking in Berlin in general), which value do the artists and students create and which value is created by doctors? Fine if the leftist gov wants to sustain their neverland but not if the other part of society (dreaded doctors, lawyers, engineers) has to pay for that. (also living in Berlin)
- matt4077 9y ago
  I was assuming that the same people would still live in the city, only in different areas. So it's all economically neutral if that's how you want to look at it. This is also not about completely excluding any group from anywhere. There are plenty of doctors and lawyers living in Kreuzberg. It's about preserving a mixture of background/ages/incomes, which has shown to work rather well. It's also hard to deny the economic impact of this scene on the city, it both includes and attracts startups, for example. Or look at Heumark development: a triple-digit million euros investment that grew out of a nightclub (bar25).
rocqua 9y ago
I get that it sucks when this happens to where you live, but is this an actual issue? Why should a neighborhood, once it is made better, be set in stone? It feels a bit like a nice populist point (ragging on the rich folks displacing the downtrodden trying to pull on their bootstraps). That alone makes suspicious.

Jdam 9y ago

So from an economic point of view (that is lacking in Berlin in general), which value do the artists and students create and which value is created by doctors? Fine if the leftist gov wants to sustain their neverland but not if the other part of society (dreaded doctors, lawyers, engineers) has to pay for that. (also living in Berlin)

matt4077 9y ago
I was assuming that the same people would still live in the city, only in different areas. So it's all economically neutral if that's how you want to look at it. This is also not about completely excluding any group from anywhere. There are plenty of doctors and lawyers living in Kreuzberg. It's about preserving a mixture of background/ages/incomes, which has shown to work rather well. It's also hard to deny the economic impact of this scene on the city, it both includes and attracts startups, for example. Or look at Heumark development: a triple-digit million euros investment that grew out of a nightclub (bar25).

rocqua 9y ago

I get that it sucks when this happens to where you live, but is this an actual issue? Why should a neighborhood, once it is made better, be set in stone? It feels a bit like a nice populist point (ragging on the rich folks displacing the downtrodden trying to pull on their bootstraps). That alone makes suspicious.