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He's only expelled from the school and publicly "known" as a rapist, no big deal. But you're right, it's not criminal liability, which is why back when this was
by Sacho 9y ago
He's only expelled from the school and publicly "known" as a rapist, no big deal. But you're right, it's not criminal liability, which is why back when this was still a new thing advocates wanted it to be more than "just" expulsion - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/scarlet-letter-would-mark-transcripts-of-college-students-convicted-of-assault/2015/07/14/abec2fea-2a41-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/scarlet-let...
Which brings us back to - why are colleges making determinations about rape? Like Professor Johnson says from that article:
“If the student is guilty, that’s not anywhere near sufficient punishment,” Johnson said. “But if the student is innocent, this is a life-altering thing. If they’re going to put it on a student’s permanent record, they need to do a lot more than they do now to be sure they get it right.”
The actual criminal justice system is already horrifyingly cruel on sex offenders, even after they've served their time, and after they've registered on the "informative, not punitive" sex offender registries. Scott Greenfield covers the trampling of civil liberties under the guise of "protecting the children" here - https://blog.simplejustice.us/?s=sex+offender https://blog.simplejustice.us/?s=sex+offender. The punishments range from where to live, to whether you're allowed to use the Internet, and those are the legal ones - how well do you think a sex offender reintegrates into society when no one wants to employ them or associate with them?
I don't see any reasons to doubt that, if left unchecked, the college system won't devolve into such a cruel and horrifying state. It's only natural - rapists are almost universally hated, so it's no big deal if we trample on their civil liberties a bit(or a lot).
- foldr 9y agoI didn't say it wasn't a big deal. You're reading way too much into my post. I was just pointing out that the term "sham trial" was used in a potentially misleading way to refer to something that was not a trial within the criminal justice system.
- CyberDildonics 9y agoHe said this student didn't even get a sham trial. Why would you even comment on your own reading miscomprehension?
- foldr 9y agoHe said that there was no pretence at due process. That could just as easily mean a trial without due process (i.e. another sham trial).