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a federal id smart card would be a great solution, but people won't let it happen because it might be "the mark of the beast". I'm not joking. I have heard tha

a federal id smart card would be a great solution, but people won't let it happen because it might be "the mark of the beast". I'm not joking. I have heard that more than once.

gaius 9y ago
a federal id smart card would be a great solution No, it would be a terrible solution, have you seen their track record? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... http://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/aws-cloud-security-221169 http://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/aws-cloud-security-221169
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  do you really think that the individual states can do better?
mindslight 9y ago
Because it is the "mark of the beast", just as SSNs or surveillance bureau's primary keys are. And no, I'm not joking either. It's entirely sophomoric to trash a book of generational wisdom by taking its metaphors literally for use as strawmen. A actual "beast" was no more a part of their daily routine that it is of yours. If identifying and cataloging people were against people's immediate interest, then it would actually not happen and it wouldn't be a concept worth mentioning. So the apparent fact that the practice looks fine and dandy to you is an indicator of exactly nothing! The problems manifest themselves on the scope of many generations, and true wisdom is to heed warnings from past failed societies rather than laughing them off. (For the record, I'm an atheist).
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  so you are opposed to drivers licenses? and for the record, they meant the antichrist as an actual person, not a metaphor...even though there's plenty of evidence that the book is referring to roman coinage and caesar. i really don't know how to reply. you are saying identification is wrong?
foobiekr 9y ago
this was also a thing when barcodes got widespread for an entertaining version (published by "The Family" a.k.a. "Children of God"): https://youtu.be/0RfU5r63AXY?t=1009 https://youtu.be/0RfU5r63AXY?t=1009

a federal id smart card would be a great solution, but people won't let it happen because it might be "the mark of the beast". I'm not joking. I have heard that more than once.

gaius 9y ago

a federal id smart card would be a great solution No, it would be a terrible solution, have you seen their track record? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... http://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/aws-cloud-security-221169 http://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/aws-cloud-security-221169

youdontknowtho 9y ago
do you really think that the individual states can do better?

mindslight 9y ago

Because it is the "mark of the beast", just as SSNs or surveillance bureau's primary keys are. And no, I'm not joking either. It's entirely sophomoric to trash a book of generational wisdom by taking its metaphors literally for use as strawmen. A actual "beast" was no more a part of their daily routine that it is of yours. If identifying and cataloging people were against people's immediate interest, then it would actually not happen and it wouldn't be a concept worth mentioning. So the apparent fact that the practice looks fine and dandy to you is an indicator of exactly nothing! The problems manifest themselves on the scope of many generations, and true wisdom is to heed warnings from past failed societies rather than laughing them off. (For the record, I'm an atheist).

youdontknowtho 9y ago
so you are opposed to drivers licenses? and for the record, they meant the antichrist as an actual person, not a metaphor...even though there's plenty of evidence that the book is referring to roman coinage and caesar. i really don't know how to reply. you are saying identification is wrong?

foobiekr 9y ago

this was also a thing when barcodes got widespread for an entertaining version (published by "The Family" a.k.a. "Children of God"): https://youtu.be/0RfU5r63AXY?t=1009 https://youtu.be/0RfU5r63AXY?t=1009