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https://i.imgur.com/OdUWQrE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OdUWQrE.jpg https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6yly20/gotta_deport_em/ https://www.reddi

https://i.imgur.com/OdUWQrE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OdUWQrE.jpg https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6yly20/gotta_deport_em/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6yly20... Godda deport 'em! Kick those rich people out! They're destroying America. Get rid of those scumbags before they destroy you! Come on now. That's exactly what they're doing. https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6yly20/gotta_deport_em/dmojuux/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6yly20... "You spelled "confiscate their property, send them to gulag, and allow them to work their way back into society" wrong. Deporting the Bourgeoisie only inflicts them on another country."

andrepd 9y ago
You're seriously this upset about (i) use of irony and (ii) commenters on an online forum?
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  Here's what I almost tacked onto the end of my original comment: "In before someone defends them by saying it's sarcasm. Oh? So the people in /r/coontown who were being sarcastic about killing blacks is reprehensible, but this is somehow ok?" I didn't want to construct a strawman argument, but there you go. Dismissing online forums seems silly. Both HN and reddit have had a huge impact.
  - andrepd 9y ago
    The title "deport them" is satirising the classical conservative discourse of blaming the immigrants and the minorities, suggesting that those really to blame by the average Joe's woes are the rich 0.1%, thereby making use of irony to subvert the term "minorities" to mean those 0.1% of the population. Clearer?
    - sillysaurus3 9y ago
      It's ironic you're explaining irony to me when I already got the joke. It's in the context of "screw these rich people." That joke wouldn't be okay if it was "screw these black people." So are we applying equal standards? Why not? Personally, I think all jokes should be fine. The more scathing criticism and wit, the better. But we live in a climate where that's not really realistic. (Well, it is, but the joke had better be pretty funny to get away with it. This one was a lowball.) So again: Why is it ok to aim this hatred towards rich people, but not minorities?
      - andrepd 9y ago
        Minorities don't hoard wealth to the detriment of others. Minorities don't encourage and profit from a reckless, agressive, all-consuming consumer capitalist economy that's wrecking the planet. Minorities don't manipulate your mind with endless propaganda and advertising. Minorities don't lobby government to write laws that favour them. Minorities don't dodge taxes. In short, I have no valid reason to be angry at minorities, I have plenty to be mad at the privileged few in the current system. Honestly? If I have to spell this out to you I don't think this conversation is ever going anywhere.
        Shidizity 9y ago
        You just made a blanket statement about the rich. All black people do is steal and murder. See, I can do it too.
- stickfigure 9y ago
  Let me localize that statement for you: You spelled "confiscate their property, put them in chain gangs, and allow them to work their way back into freedom" wrong. Deporting the niggers only inflicts them on another country. Yeah, I think hate is upsetting no matter what outgroup you pick.
nickthemagicman 9y ago
You posted three links link to the same post on a subreddit of 180,000 people... Why not just say the entire site of reddit hates rich people because of that one post? Or the entire internet? You're literally demonizing an interesting sub-reddit that discusses legit issues regarding late stage capitalism over one post that you read.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  If my words are inaccurate, point out that they're wrong. I don't feel bad at all for highlighting their behavior. The mods actively breed discontent and sow discord -- that is the purpose of the subreddit. They, from the top-down, encourage people to feel this way. My examples aren't cherry-picked. It was ten seconds of effort after sorting by "top of the last month." I could post many more if you'd like.
  - nickthemagicman 9y ago
    Yeah but it's a subreddit of 180,000 people...that's like saying the internet is bad because there's several examples of child porn sites...
    - sillysaurus3 9y ago
      Eh, there's some truth to that. And I'd prefer not banning subreddits at all. But on the other hand, people have been calling for The_Donald to be banned for years for similar behavior, and they have far more subscribers. Suffice to say, all I was doing was mentioning that LateStageCapitalism exists and pointing out some of their behavior. I don't actually want them to be banned. Like all subs, there is some good content mixed in with the extremism.
  - plandis 9y ago
    Proof by counterexample [1] (to the claim that this is a hate group) [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6z0z21/support_fightback/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6z0z21...
- 9y ago
nickthemagicman 9y ago
Your comparison of people revolting against the rich is more apt to the French Revolution and American Revolution than to communism. Both revolutions actually overthrew the rich aristocrats and created a democratic republic... Unchecked free market capitalism leads to silo-ing of wealth and power amongst a select few and that's the point the people on that subreddit are trying to make. They don't hate rich people...they hate the oligoloplies and big monied interests that are have more influence than the average citizen on the direction of the country. Trump is the perfect example of this.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  The American Revolution was a regional separatist movement led by the local rich aristocrats, it did not overthrow the rich aristocrats. And the French Revolution did not, in fact, establish a democratic republic, it established an unstable regime nominally dedicated to democratic values but ruled by a succession of different regimes (of which, only the four years of the Directory even superficially resembles a democratic republic) before transitioning into the First Empire.
  - SubiculumCode 9y ago
    Just because it was led by such does not mean that the soldier was not fighting for their liberated futures.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > Just because it was led by such does not mean that the soldier was not fighting for their liberated futures. The claim being addressed is “Both revolutions actually overthrew the rich aristocrats and created a democratic republic...” This is a claim about actual outcomes, not motivations.
      - nickthemagicman 9y ago
        The actual outcomes are two of the greatest long lasting Democratic Republics in the history of the HUMAN RACE.... Also, compared to the aristocrats, lords, and king and queen of 1700' British empire, George Washington and company were absolute low rent scrubs. Sure there were varied classes of people who revolted but the ultimate outcome was to rip the power and wealth from the rich few and give it to the many.... We the fucking people.

andrepd 9y ago

You're seriously this upset about (i) use of irony and (ii) commenters on an online forum?

sillysaurus3 9y ago
Here's what I almost tacked onto the end of my original comment: "In before someone defends them by saying it's sarcasm. Oh? So the people in /r/coontown who were being sarcastic about killing blacks is reprehensible, but this is somehow ok?" I didn't want to construct a strawman argument, but there you go. Dismissing online forums seems silly. Both HN and reddit have had a huge impact.
- andrepd 9y ago
  The title "deport them" is satirising the classical conservative discourse of blaming the immigrants and the minorities, suggesting that those really to blame by the average Joe's woes are the rich 0.1%, thereby making use of irony to subvert the term "minorities" to mean those 0.1% of the population. Clearer?
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    It's ironic you're explaining irony to me when I already got the joke. It's in the context of "screw these rich people." That joke wouldn't be okay if it was "screw these black people." So are we applying equal standards? Why not? Personally, I think all jokes should be fine. The more scathing criticism and wit, the better. But we live in a climate where that's not really realistic. (Well, it is, but the joke had better be pretty funny to get away with it. This one was a lowball.) So again: Why is it ok to aim this hatred towards rich people, but not minorities?
    - andrepd 9y ago
      Minorities don't hoard wealth to the detriment of others. Minorities don't encourage and profit from a reckless, agressive, all-consuming consumer capitalist economy that's wrecking the planet. Minorities don't manipulate your mind with endless propaganda and advertising. Minorities don't lobby government to write laws that favour them. Minorities don't dodge taxes. In short, I have no valid reason to be angry at minorities, I have plenty to be mad at the privileged few in the current system. Honestly? If I have to spell this out to you I don't think this conversation is ever going anywhere.
      - Shidizity 9y ago
        You just made a blanket statement about the rich. All black people do is steal and murder. See, I can do it too.
stickfigure 9y ago
Let me localize that statement for you: You spelled "confiscate their property, put them in chain gangs, and allow them to work their way back into freedom" wrong. Deporting the niggers only inflicts them on another country. Yeah, I think hate is upsetting no matter what outgroup you pick.

nickthemagicman 9y ago

You posted three links link to the same post on a subreddit of 180,000 people... Why not just say the entire site of reddit hates rich people because of that one post? Or the entire internet? You're literally demonizing an interesting sub-reddit that discusses legit issues regarding late stage capitalism over one post that you read.

sillysaurus3 9y ago
If my words are inaccurate, point out that they're wrong. I don't feel bad at all for highlighting their behavior. The mods actively breed discontent and sow discord -- that is the purpose of the subreddit. They, from the top-down, encourage people to feel this way. My examples aren't cherry-picked. It was ten seconds of effort after sorting by "top of the last month." I could post many more if you'd like.
- nickthemagicman 9y ago
  Yeah but it's a subreddit of 180,000 people...that's like saying the internet is bad because there's several examples of child porn sites...
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    Eh, there's some truth to that. And I'd prefer not banning subreddits at all. But on the other hand, people have been calling for The_Donald to be banned for years for similar behavior, and they have far more subscribers. Suffice to say, all I was doing was mentioning that LateStageCapitalism exists and pointing out some of their behavior. I don't actually want them to be banned. Like all subs, there is some good content mixed in with the extremism.
- plandis 9y ago
  Proof by counterexample [1] (to the claim that this is a hate group) [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6z0z21/support_fightback/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/6z0z21...
9y ago

nickthemagicman 9y ago

Your comparison of people revolting against the rich is more apt to the French Revolution and American Revolution than to communism. Both revolutions actually overthrew the rich aristocrats and created a democratic republic... Unchecked free market capitalism leads to silo-ing of wealth and power amongst a select few and that's the point the people on that subreddit are trying to make. They don't hate rich people...they hate the oligoloplies and big monied interests that are have more influence than the average citizen on the direction of the country. Trump is the perfect example of this.

dragonwriter 9y ago
The American Revolution was a regional separatist movement led by the local rich aristocrats, it did not overthrow the rich aristocrats. And the French Revolution did not, in fact, establish a democratic republic, it established an unstable regime nominally dedicated to democratic values but ruled by a succession of different regimes (of which, only the four years of the Directory even superficially resembles a democratic republic) before transitioning into the First Empire.
- SubiculumCode 9y ago
  Just because it was led by such does not mean that the soldier was not fighting for their liberated futures.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Just because it was led by such does not mean that the soldier was not fighting for their liberated futures. The claim being addressed is “Both revolutions actually overthrew the rich aristocrats and created a democratic republic...” This is a claim about actual outcomes, not motivations.
    - nickthemagicman 9y ago
      The actual outcomes are two of the greatest long lasting Democratic Republics in the history of the HUMAN RACE.... Also, compared to the aristocrats, lords, and king and queen of 1700' British empire, George Washington and company were absolute low rent scrubs. Sure there were varied classes of people who revolted but the ultimate outcome was to rip the power and wealth from the rich few and give it to the many.... We the fucking people.