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Yeah I loved that video. The radio tower image in that other article you referenced is because this was the technology worked on in the war that lead to all of

by js7745 9y ago

Yeah I loved that video. The radio tower image in that other article you referenced is because this was the technology worked on in the war that lead to all of these ideas. And you do have a fair point. There were many factors that lead to the settlement of Silicon Valley and why all the talent wound up there. However for me I what I really wanted to know about in silicon valley is less lead-up, and more the development and the technical innovation. I fixed that statement you mentioned about Arthur Rock to specify it was the first private firm. Definitely a good distinction. Super interesting that Arthur Rock was a student of George Doriot. George Doriot was the first person to take advantage of SBICs (government funded small business investment companies) that was created by the SBA to encourage more entrepreneurship. Where I think Arthur Rock was particularly innovative was that he raised all of this money from wealthy individuals looking to do private investing. While I agree the VC industry wouldn't have been started if it wasn't for Doriot, I think private money being used to fund startups is really the inflection point in the industry. Government money can't last forever.

eesmith 9y ago
"what I really wanted to know about in silicon valley is less lead-up, and more the development and the technical innovation." I think a way to help understand the success of SV is to understand the differences between there and Route 128, ""America's Technology Highway". Quoting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Route_128#.22America.27s_Technology_Highway.22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Route_128#.22Ame... ): > In 1955, Business Week ran an article titled "New England Highway Upsets Old Way of Life" and referred to Route 128 as "the Magic Semicircle". By 1958, it needed to be widened from six to eight lanes, and business growth continued, often driven by technology out of Harvard University and MIT.[15] In 1957, there were 99 companies employing 17,000 workers along 128; in 1965, 574; in 1973, 1,212. In the 1980s, the area was often compared to California's Silicon valley,[16][17] and the positive effects of this growth on the Massachusetts economy were dubbed the "Massachusetts Miracle". It had many of the same ingredients as SV, but it's no longer the powerhouse of technology that it once was. Personally, I don't have an answer for why one succeeded and the other failed.
- js7745 9y ago
  I think it could have something to do with the openness of silicon valley. For example, california banned non-compete agreements. Boston was used to the corporate mindset where information is an asset that can't be shared. That free flow of information in silicon valley made innovation progress much faster. This is a great explanation: https://psmag.com/social-justice/innovation-thrives-richard-florida-ethnicity-place-migration-talent-95973 https://psmag.com/social-justice/innovation-thrives-richard-... "The boston area was organized around these big, vertically integrated minicomputer companies — dec, data general. They were classic postwar american companies, with vertical hierarchies and career ladders. Planning and research happened at the top of the organization and then funneled down. Whereas in silicon valley you had, really by chance not design, a series of flat companies, with project-based teams that moved around. People moved between companies much more fluidly. At a time that technology and know-how were sort of trapped within the vertically integrated companies of route 128, they were being continually recombined in silicon valley. That gave them a real edge in innovation."
  - eesmith 9y ago
    I heard a lecture by Richard Florida once. I felt like he viewed things through a quite different lens than I, such that I didn't believe his views on things. I see now that others are more concrete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Florida#Criticism_and_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Florida#Criticism_and_... How much of that is "Silicon Valley" and how much is "California"? To start with, why did California prohibit non-compete clauses .. back in 1872(!). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Civil_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Civil_Code says the code was "revolutionary for its time". If that helped cause openness, did that openness extend to other fields? Including the studio system during the Golden Age of Hollywood? Given all of the companies working on secret government contracts, how open could they be? The Pacific Standard article describes Florida's spin on a dissertation by AnnaLee Saxenian. Blank recommends Saxenian's book highly. For example, in https://steveblank.com/2009/04/20/the-secret-history-of-silicon-valley-part-v-happy-100th-birthday-silicon-valley/ https://steveblank.com/2009/04/20/the-secret-history-of-sili... . Blank wrote: > I read all the popular books about the valley and they all told a variant of the same story; entrepreneurs as heroes building the Semiconductor and Personal Computer companies: Bill Hewlett and David Packard at HP, Bob Taylor and the team at Xerox PARC, Steve Jobs and Wozniak at Apple, Gordon Moore and Bob Noyce at Intel, etc. These were inspiring stories, but I realized that, no surprise, the popular press were writing books that had mass appeal. > But no one was writing about where the entrepreneurial culture had come from. Where were the books explaining why were all these chip and computer companies started here? Why not elsewhere in the country or the world? With the exception of one great book, no one was writing about our regional advantage. That "one great book" is Saxenian's "Regional Advantage: Culture and Competition in Silicon Valley and Route 128". Which, ummm..., answers my own question. :) Re-reading that page by Blank reminds me of how much an eye-opener it was to hear Blank's talk the first time. His work really is the reason I am now wary when I read (yet again) the standard stories about SV.

by js7745 9y ago

eesmith 9y ago

"what I really wanted to know about in silicon valley is less lead-up, and more the development and the technical innovation." I think a way to help understand the success of SV is to understand the differences between there and Route 128, ""America's Technology Highway". Quoting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Route_128#.22America.27s_Technology_Highway.22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Route_128#.22Ame... ): > In 1955, Business Week ran an article titled "New England Highway Upsets Old Way of Life" and referred to Route 128 as "the Magic Semicircle". By 1958, it needed to be widened from six to eight lanes, and business growth continued, often driven by technology out of Harvard University and MIT.[15] In 1957, there were 99 companies employing 17,000 workers along 128; in 1965, 574; in 1973, 1,212. In the 1980s, the area was often compared to California's Silicon valley,[16][17] and the positive effects of this growth on the Massachusetts economy were dubbed the "Massachusetts Miracle". It had many of the same ingredients as SV, but it's no longer the powerhouse of technology that it once was. Personally, I don't have an answer for why one succeeded and the other failed.

js7745 9y ago
I think it could have something to do with the openness of silicon valley. For example, california banned non-compete agreements. Boston was used to the corporate mindset where information is an asset that can't be shared. That free flow of information in silicon valley made innovation progress much faster. This is a great explanation: https://psmag.com/social-justice/innovation-thrives-richard-florida-ethnicity-place-migration-talent-95973 https://psmag.com/social-justice/innovation-thrives-richard-... "The boston area was organized around these big, vertically integrated minicomputer companies — dec, data general. They were classic postwar american companies, with vertical hierarchies and career ladders. Planning and research happened at the top of the organization and then funneled down. Whereas in silicon valley you had, really by chance not design, a series of flat companies, with project-based teams that moved around. People moved between companies much more fluidly. At a time that technology and know-how were sort of trapped within the vertically integrated companies of route 128, they were being continually recombined in silicon valley. That gave them a real edge in innovation."
- eesmith 9y ago
  I heard a lecture by Richard Florida once. I felt like he viewed things through a quite different lens than I, such that I didn't believe his views on things. I see now that others are more concrete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Florida#Criticism_and_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Florida#Criticism_and_... How much of that is "Silicon Valley" and how much is "California"? To start with, why did California prohibit non-compete clauses .. back in 1872(!). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Civil_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Civil_Code says the code was "revolutionary for its time". If that helped cause openness, did that openness extend to other fields? Including the studio system during the Golden Age of Hollywood? Given all of the companies working on secret government contracts, how open could they be? The Pacific Standard article describes Florida's spin on a dissertation by AnnaLee Saxenian. Blank recommends Saxenian's book highly. For example, in https://steveblank.com/2009/04/20/the-secret-history-of-silicon-valley-part-v-happy-100th-birthday-silicon-valley/ https://steveblank.com/2009/04/20/the-secret-history-of-sili... . Blank wrote: > I read all the popular books about the valley and they all told a variant of the same story; entrepreneurs as heroes building the Semiconductor and Personal Computer companies: Bill Hewlett and David Packard at HP, Bob Taylor and the team at Xerox PARC, Steve Jobs and Wozniak at Apple, Gordon Moore and Bob Noyce at Intel, etc. These were inspiring stories, but I realized that, no surprise, the popular press were writing books that had mass appeal. > But no one was writing about where the entrepreneurial culture had come from. Where were the books explaining why were all these chip and computer companies started here? Why not elsewhere in the country or the world? With the exception of one great book, no one was writing about our regional advantage. That "one great book" is Saxenian's "Regional Advantage: Culture and Competition in Silicon Valley and Route 128". Which, ummm..., answers my own question. :) Re-reading that page by Blank reminds me of how much an eye-opener it was to hear Blank's talk the first time. His work really is the reason I am now wary when I read (yet again) the standard stories about SV.