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If anyone is interested, there is an interesting documentary about the LCBO. Developed by homebrewers, so it's not completely impartial but also quite fair. htt

by tekni5 9y ago

If anyone is interested, there is an interesting documentary about the LCBO. Developed by homebrewers, so it's not completely impartial but also quite fair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn555TyJJw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn555TyJJw0 Giving government absolute control over distribution of a non-essential product/service is probably not the best idea, but at least it's better than having that product/service be completely illegal. Ideally they should allow private businesses to sell under very strict guidelines.

mynegation 9y ago
As an Ontarian and having previously lived in a country where pretty much anyone can sell alcohol till very late I passionately support LCBO and - as a voter - will support the proposed provincial government controlled marijuana distribution. No, it does not completely prevent alcohol in the hands of minors, late night drinking binges, deaths from methylene, but reduces these cases greatly for sure.
- saenns 9y ago
  for sure? others might not find your anecdotal evidence as persuasive as you do.
- kenned3 9y ago
  As an Ontarian and having previously lived in a country where pretty much anyone can sell alcohol till very late i find your comment odd. I lived in the states for several years and you can get liquor at grocery stores, they had private stores which were like 4 times the size and selection of any LCBO. What i do recall seeing is Toronto Liquor being sold in Connecticut for a full 50% less (bottled in Toronto).. I dont recall seeing any "problems", in fact it seems Ontario and Connecticut have similiar death rates and Canada is among the worlds highest despite ourarchaic liquor laws from the 1920's which are almost soviet era (wait in line for a ticket, then wait in line for your item). http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-drunk-driving-death-rate-worst-among-wealthy-countries-u-s-study-finds http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-drunk-driving-de... you can see canada's rates are 5.4 per 100,000 people and you can see Connecticuts rates here http://c-hit.org/2016/01/17/drunk-driving-fatalities-decline-but-state-ranks-high-in-impaired-drivers/ http://c-hit.org/2016/01/17/drunk-driving-fatalities-decline... Perhaps you have a reason why Canada's death rate from impaired driving is actually higher then the US? PS. I dont even drink, but find it odd the government is in this business and gouges their customers. if it is "bad" for you, why sell it? oh.. thats right.. to stop the bootleggers and fill hte government revenue?
mstodd 9y ago
Ideally a business should be able to sell whatever it wants to whomever it wants. I'd argue that some US states that have legalized it are worse off than when it was illegal. The regulation and taxation is ridiculous, and when it's legalized, it's much less likely to be taken off the books entirely. It's sad to call all the rules and regulations around growing, distributing, and consuming a plant a 'win'.

by tekni5 9y ago

mynegation 9y ago

As an Ontarian and having previously lived in a country where pretty much anyone can sell alcohol till very late I passionately support LCBO and - as a voter - will support the proposed provincial government controlled marijuana distribution. No, it does not completely prevent alcohol in the hands of minors, late night drinking binges, deaths from methylene, but reduces these cases greatly for sure.

saenns 9y ago
for sure? others might not find your anecdotal evidence as persuasive as you do.
kenned3 9y ago
As an Ontarian and having previously lived in a country where pretty much anyone can sell alcohol till very late i find your comment odd. I lived in the states for several years and you can get liquor at grocery stores, they had private stores which were like 4 times the size and selection of any LCBO. What i do recall seeing is Toronto Liquor being sold in Connecticut for a full 50% less (bottled in Toronto).. I dont recall seeing any "problems", in fact it seems Ontario and Connecticut have similiar death rates and Canada is among the worlds highest despite ourarchaic liquor laws from the 1920's which are almost soviet era (wait in line for a ticket, then wait in line for your item). http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-drunk-driving-death-rate-worst-among-wealthy-countries-u-s-study-finds http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-drunk-driving-de... you can see canada's rates are 5.4 per 100,000 people and you can see Connecticuts rates here http://c-hit.org/2016/01/17/drunk-driving-fatalities-decline-but-state-ranks-high-in-impaired-drivers/ http://c-hit.org/2016/01/17/drunk-driving-fatalities-decline... Perhaps you have a reason why Canada's death rate from impaired driving is actually higher then the US? PS. I dont even drink, but find it odd the government is in this business and gouges their customers. if it is "bad" for you, why sell it? oh.. thats right.. to stop the bootleggers and fill hte government revenue?

mstodd 9y ago

Ideally a business should be able to sell whatever it wants to whomever it wants. I'd argue that some US states that have legalized it are worse off than when it was illegal. The regulation and taxation is ridiculous, and when it's legalized, it's much less likely to be taken off the books entirely. It's sad to call all the rules and regulations around growing, distributing, and consuming a plant a 'win'.