> Reality exists independent of the observer. This is costing me way too much HN karma lol, I guess nobody likes to get down voted, but try rewording that firs

> Reality exists independent of the observer. This is costing me way too much HN karma lol, I guess nobody likes to get down voted, but try rewording that first statement like this: Observer exists independent of reality. If that were true, what could be said about reality ? Who/what is this Observer, is it the same in every being ? Is it possible to detach the observer from the self ? Yes. People have been doing this since there is history. I guess that's the whole point I was trying to make.