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There's also the eclipse preceding these events. Of course there are relationships, I just don't think most of us (scientists or scientifically inclined) know

There's also the eclipse preceding these events. Of course there are relationships, I just don't think most of us (scientists or scientifically inclined) know how to see them, since some of the links are not in the 'rational' space. Shamans still have better answers than scientists to these kinds of questions, but I don't think that most people want to hear the answers. Either way something extraordinary is taking place, hopefully it will lead to something positive in the end.

BuffaloBagel 9y ago
Dude, you're blowing my mind which your causality warping.
jacquesm 9y ago
What a load of crock. Eclipses have nothing whatsoever to do with solar flares, Shamans are con men and have no answers to anything relevant that scientists could not answer better and most people do not want to hear the answers any more than they want to hear other random bullshit. If the links are not in rational space they do not exist, period.
- delegate 9y ago
  Turns out, eclipses have everything to do with solar flares and every other phenomena you observe: You. All of these things happen to you. We've been trained to look at reality as something 'out there', but truth is that reality happens inside your consciousness and it's unclear where mind ends and 'reality' starts. It's unclear if there's anything but consciousness (note that the 'brain' might also be a construct of consciousness). Shamans - not the con men - devote their life to studying and sharing the relationship between consciousness, mind, nature/universe, what was before birth and what follows after. There are tools and practices to take you on these voyages where physics and rationality don't apply and if you go there once... to put it lightly, things won't look the same as they did before. Not a time and place to go deeper, some answers come when we go on to the next stage, but there's a lot more than what the textbooks teach.
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  - xtreme 9y ago
    Reality exists independent of the observer. If there is some relationship between eclipses and hurricanes or between solar flares and seismic activity, they existed long before life originated on earth and would continue to exist far beyond our extinction. While we should not discount their possibility without some research, there is not much reason to believe there is such a connection without further evidence.
    - dingo_bat 9y ago
      > Reality exists independent of the observer. Quantum mechanics would like a word with you.
      - iamatworknow 9y ago
        Quantum mechanics is about probabilities. Just because there's an infinitesimally small probability of something being possible doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.
        smaudet 9y ago
        Which branch of proven physics happily marries quantum and relativistic physics again? Shamans are a religion yes, and it probably wasn't very wise mentioning that in the presence of a bunch of ruthless capitalists - you may as well dangle a steak in front of dogs. But while I can't know that anything is being said that is true, and can't discount it either. Theorems are proven by confidence level in the null hypothesis being incorrect. Evidence is the only thing that separates 'science' from belief. A lack of evidence is a failure to prove anything, not a proof that it doesn't exist.
      - dogma1138 9y ago
        Don't confuse localization with reality. You also seem to infer observer is some form of intelligence, in reality an observer or a measurement isn't anything more than a physical interaction.
- carapace 9y ago
  Ooo, touched a nerve there I think? What's the square-root of two?
cycrutchfield 9y ago
Uh, you sure you are "scientists or scientifically inclined"?
kakarot 9y ago
The hell? What training exactly does a Shaman undergo to receive his authentic certificate of Shamanism, and how is this superior to the specialized academic training received by scientists in the fields relevant to this phenomena?
phailhaus 9y ago
Claiming you have an answer is not preferable to admitting you just don't know.
urda 9y ago
You can't be serious. Shamans? You think Shamans are a thing? Not only that, you think they are a better thing than scientists? What kind of Whacky Friday antics is going on here at HN today?

BuffaloBagel 9y ago

Dude, you're blowing my mind which your causality warping.

jacquesm 9y ago

What a load of crock. Eclipses have nothing whatsoever to do with solar flares, Shamans are con men and have no answers to anything relevant that scientists could not answer better and most people do not want to hear the answers any more than they want to hear other random bullshit. If the links are not in rational space they do not exist, period.

delegate 9y ago
Turns out, eclipses have everything to do with solar flares and every other phenomena you observe: You. All of these things happen to you. We've been trained to look at reality as something 'out there', but truth is that reality happens inside your consciousness and it's unclear where mind ends and 'reality' starts. It's unclear if there's anything but consciousness (note that the 'brain' might also be a construct of consciousness). Shamans - not the con men - devote their life to studying and sharing the relationship between consciousness, mind, nature/universe, what was before birth and what follows after. There are tools and practices to take you on these voyages where physics and rationality don't apply and if you go there once... to put it lightly, things won't look the same as they did before. Not a time and place to go deeper, some answers come when we go on to the next stage, but there's a lot more than what the textbooks teach.
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- xtreme 9y ago
  Reality exists independent of the observer. If there is some relationship between eclipses and hurricanes or between solar flares and seismic activity, they existed long before life originated on earth and would continue to exist far beyond our extinction. While we should not discount their possibility without some research, there is not much reason to believe there is such a connection without further evidence.
  - dingo_bat 9y ago
    > Reality exists independent of the observer. Quantum mechanics would like a word with you.
    - iamatworknow 9y ago
      Quantum mechanics is about probabilities. Just because there's an infinitesimally small probability of something being possible doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.
      - smaudet 9y ago
        Which branch of proven physics happily marries quantum and relativistic physics again? Shamans are a religion yes, and it probably wasn't very wise mentioning that in the presence of a bunch of ruthless capitalists - you may as well dangle a steak in front of dogs. But while I can't know that anything is being said that is true, and can't discount it either. Theorems are proven by confidence level in the null hypothesis being incorrect. Evidence is the only thing that separates 'science' from belief. A lack of evidence is a failure to prove anything, not a proof that it doesn't exist.
    - dogma1138 9y ago
      Don't confuse localization with reality. You also seem to infer observer is some form of intelligence, in reality an observer or a measurement isn't anything more than a physical interaction.
carapace 9y ago
Ooo, touched a nerve there I think? What's the square-root of two?

cycrutchfield 9y ago

Uh, you sure you are "scientists or scientifically inclined"?

kakarot 9y ago

The hell? What training exactly does a Shaman undergo to receive his authentic certificate of Shamanism, and how is this superior to the specialized academic training received by scientists in the fields relevant to this phenomena?

phailhaus 9y ago

Claiming you have an answer is not preferable to admitting you just don't know.

urda 9y ago

You can't be serious. Shamans? You think Shamans are a thing? Not only that, you think they are a better thing than scientists? What kind of Whacky Friday antics is going on here at HN today?