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There simple needs to be a revolution in this space. I would say, from personal experience, that Galvanize, a software bootcamp/school etc. is the most organize

by sbr464 9y ago

There simple needs to be a revolution in this space. I would say, from personal experience, that Galvanize, a software bootcamp/school etc. is the most organized & on point pushing to replace tradition CS programs. But CS is only a micro slice of the job economy. Why can't their (or others) model of short term/extremely focused programs be applied to other in-demand, specialized, fields? Examples? Non-MD Psychiatrists that review specific cases, other mental health specialties, highly technical pharmacist/software/hardware/etc technical jobs (sry lack of clarity) but taught in this new learning style vs 6-8+ traditional college curriculums.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
> Why can't their (or others) model of short term/extremely focused programs be applied to other in-demand, specialized, fields? Examples? Non-MD Psychoatrists We had these. They were called apprenticeships. [1] [1] https://www.dol.gov/apprenticeship/ https://www.dol.gov/apprenticeship/ Companies became accustomed to making the rules though labor-wise over the last decade (including externalizing the cost of an employee's education). This is slowly changing due to a tight labor market [2] (forcing employers to finally invest in their workforce) but it will take time. [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-06/it-s-boom-times-for-recruiters-as-u-s-job-market-tightens https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-06/it-s-boom...
- sbr464 9y ago
  Completely agree
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > We had these. They were called apprenticeships Apprenticeships tend not to be “short-term”.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    A country cannot bootcamp its way to prosperity. Education takes time.
    - ux-app 9y ago
      >A country cannot bootcamp its way to prosperity. Education takes time. I need this printed as a bumper sticker
  - lsc 9y ago
    we still have these, and they are often short term. I think in the trades, 2 to 4 years is traditional; 'internships' which is what we call the same thing in the tech industry, tend to be 3 months to a year. I have no college and did an ad-hoc internship doing office IT in high school; it provided an upwards path for me. There are also a lot of really low paid IT jobs that are not officially called internships but that fill that role and hire those people; Before I reached age of majority, I spent a lot of time doing IT work in the neighborhood of minimum wage.

by sbr464 9y ago

toomuchtodo 9y ago

> Why can't their (or others) model of short term/extremely focused programs be applied to other in-demand, specialized, fields? Examples? Non-MD Psychoatrists We had these. They were called apprenticeships. [1] [1] https://www.dol.gov/apprenticeship/ https://www.dol.gov/apprenticeship/ Companies became accustomed to making the rules though labor-wise over the last decade (including externalizing the cost of an employee's education). This is slowly changing due to a tight labor market [2] (forcing employers to finally invest in their workforce) but it will take time. [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-06/it-s-boom-times-for-recruiters-as-u-s-job-market-tightens https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-06/it-s-boom...

sbr464 9y ago
Completely agree
dragonwriter 9y ago
> We had these. They were called apprenticeships Apprenticeships tend not to be “short-term”.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  A country cannot bootcamp its way to prosperity. Education takes time.
  - ux-app 9y ago
    >A country cannot bootcamp its way to prosperity. Education takes time. I need this printed as a bumper sticker
- lsc 9y ago
  we still have these, and they are often short term. I think in the trades, 2 to 4 years is traditional; 'internships' which is what we call the same thing in the tech industry, tend to be 3 months to a year. I have no college and did an ad-hoc internship doing office IT in high school; it provided an upwards path for me. There are also a lot of really low paid IT jobs that are not officially called internships but that fill that role and hire those people; Before I reached age of majority, I spent a lot of time doing IT work in the neighborhood of minimum wage.