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Sure, Brett Ratner, your movies are flopping because of the review aggregator, not because of anything that those reviews might indicate...

microcolonel 9y ago
It worked for Amy Schumer, Netflix ditched their superiour star-based system for thumbs up and down (which are now completely meaningless).
- danso 9y ago
  How so? The information derived from the thumbs ups/thumbs down system is conveyed to you in the form of a "XX% Match". How is that substantially different than seeing that prediction mapped to a 5-star scale?
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    Yeah, the percentage scale is even more useless than the stars were. I went to the effort of rating things consistently for things I watched, and it always recommended garbage to me at 98% match, things I actually liked (but saw elsewhere) showed up as like.. 60-90%. Neither of them are particularly useful, but at least the star system usually conveyed when something is irredeemable garbage.
    - eridius 9y ago
      This is so true. What was great about the old system was Netflix showed you both the average star rating, and the star rating for people like you. Both values together provided a fairly meaningful signal. But the percentage scale isn't very helpful, and Netflix is constantly recommending garbage at high values and good stuff at lower values.
      - sbierwagen 9y ago
        "Star rating" is at least vaguely objective, but a "recommendation score" would give Netflix more latitude to put a thumb on the scale, if a movie studio was interested in paying money to increase a movie's rating. Recommendations are ads, and people who spend more get bigger ad spots.
    - ng12 9y ago
      > irredeemable garbage Very few movies fit into this category. "The Ridiculous 6" has a 0% (!) on RT, yet apparently enough people watched it to warrant Netflix producing more Adam Sandler movies [1]. I think the implementation of the match system is pretty awful but it is the right idea. 1. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/entertainment/adam-sandler-netflix/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/entertainment/adam-sandler-net...
- vorpalhex 9y ago
  The Netflix scoring system is personalized so it doesn't outright help or harm anyone but you. They moved away from stars because it's too relative of a scale. Is 3 stars worth watching? What about 5? If I liked a movie but it wasn't amazing, do I give a 3 or a 4? Is 3 bad or median?
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    Since the old algorithm predicted your rating of a film based on a number of inputs, it didn't actually rely on star ratings having a consistent meaning across users, only for each individual user. It was one of the few uses for which a five-star or numeric rating system is actually valuable.

microcolonel 9y ago

It worked for Amy Schumer, Netflix ditched their superiour star-based system for thumbs up and down (which are now completely meaningless).

danso 9y ago
How so? The information derived from the thumbs ups/thumbs down system is conveyed to you in the form of a "XX% Match". How is that substantially different than seeing that prediction mapped to a 5-star scale?
- microcolonel 9y ago
  Yeah, the percentage scale is even more useless than the stars were. I went to the effort of rating things consistently for things I watched, and it always recommended garbage to me at 98% match, things I actually liked (but saw elsewhere) showed up as like.. 60-90%. Neither of them are particularly useful, but at least the star system usually conveyed when something is irredeemable garbage.
  - eridius 9y ago
    This is so true. What was great about the old system was Netflix showed you both the average star rating, and the star rating for people like you. Both values together provided a fairly meaningful signal. But the percentage scale isn't very helpful, and Netflix is constantly recommending garbage at high values and good stuff at lower values.
    - sbierwagen 9y ago
      "Star rating" is at least vaguely objective, but a "recommendation score" would give Netflix more latitude to put a thumb on the scale, if a movie studio was interested in paying money to increase a movie's rating. Recommendations are ads, and people who spend more get bigger ad spots.
  - ng12 9y ago
    > irredeemable garbage Very few movies fit into this category. "The Ridiculous 6" has a 0% (!) on RT, yet apparently enough people watched it to warrant Netflix producing more Adam Sandler movies [1]. I think the implementation of the match system is pretty awful but it is the right idea. 1. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/entertainment/adam-sandler-netflix/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/entertainment/adam-sandler-net...
vorpalhex 9y ago
The Netflix scoring system is personalized so it doesn't outright help or harm anyone but you. They moved away from stars because it's too relative of a scale. Is 3 stars worth watching? What about 5? If I liked a movie but it wasn't amazing, do I give a 3 or a 4? Is 3 bad or median?
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  Since the old algorithm predicted your rating of a film based on a number of inputs, it didn't actually rely on star ratings having a consistent meaning across users, only for each individual user. It was one of the few uses for which a five-star or numeric rating system is actually valuable.