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Are you seriously suggesting that the decline of the acceptance of rape or the increasing awareness of discrimination against women in America is causing men to

Are you seriously suggesting that the decline of the acceptance of rape or the increasing awareness of discrimination against women in America is causing men to use opioids?

eighthnate 9y ago
> Are you seriously suggesting that the decline of the acceptance of rape Where did I say that? You are just resorting to outright straw man arguments now? I'm just pointing out that the lies the media tells about "campus rape culture" as if every college woman is being raped and every college male is a rapist doe a disservice to both men and women. > or the increasing awareness of discrimination against women in America is causing men to use opioids? Discrimination of women? What about the discrimination against men? There are more women at colleges than men. Corporations are favoring hiring women over men. I guess we can blame the opioid crisis for that. When more men attended college than women, then it was sexist patriarchy. Now that more women are attending college than men, the media says it's the "natural" order. "“At the same time, the slower social development and more serious behavioral problems of boys remained and allowed girls to leapfrog over boys in the race to college.” In other words: As things got more equal for boys and girls, a natural advantage began to reveal itself." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/women-are-dominating-men-at-college-blame-sexism/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/... Can you imagine if a man said it is the "natural order" for more men to attend colleges than women? But yes, lets pretend that women are being discriminated against. Millions more women attend college than men, but it's the women being discriminated against. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/28/look-how-women-outnumber-men-college-campuses-nationwide/YROqwfCPSlKPtSMAzpWloK/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/28/look-how-women-...
dallashoxton 9y ago
To me, he's suggesting that the prevalence of general anti-men sentiment within the culture at large is partly responsible for men dropping out of society. College campuses declaring that all men are rapists until proven otherwise is symptomatic of that culture.
adekok 9y ago
I downvoted you because your comment is offensive and demeaning. The OP said men are attacked as rapists. There is just no way to interpret that as "decline of the acceptance of rape". As background, see: https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538974/ https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538974/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/06/devos-plans-title-ix-changes-in-wake-report-on-campus-denial-due-process.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/06/devos-plans-title... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/hey-lawyers-leave-them-kids-alone/20271 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/hey-lawyers-lea... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/13/columbia-university-settles-title-ix-lawsuit-with-former-student-involving-mattress-girl-case/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/1... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/21/catholic-university-found-him-responsible-for-a-sexual-assault-now-hes-suing-the-school/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/2... http://helpsaveoursons.com/category/court-wins/ http://helpsaveoursons.com/category/court-wins/ The typical University holds kangaroo trials for students accused of rape. Normal behavior includes: * denial of due process * refusing to see exculpatory evidence * "independent investigators" who assist the plaintiff * allowing the plaintiff to have representation, while denying it to the accused * refusing to let the accused question the plaintiff The accusation of rape is so evil that the universities fall all over themselves to violate their own investigative processes in order to convict the accused. These students (overwhelmingly male) lose everything. They lose not only time at university, they lose grants, membership in university organizations, jobs, etc. Their entire life is destroyed. So it's offensive for you to read that "men get attacked as rapists", and somehow turn that into a man-hating comment of a "decline in the acceptance of rape". Do you really hate men that much, that you think they're upset that rape is no longer "accepted"?
random_rr 9y ago
Your comment is gross. It is the exact opposite of charitable interpretation.

Are you seriously suggesting that the decline of the acceptance of rape or the increasing awareness of discrimination against women in America is causing men to use opioids?

eighthnate 9y ago

> Are you seriously suggesting that the decline of the acceptance of rape Where did I say that? You are just resorting to outright straw man arguments now? I'm just pointing out that the lies the media tells about "campus rape culture" as if every college woman is being raped and every college male is a rapist doe a disservice to both men and women. > or the increasing awareness of discrimination against women in America is causing men to use opioids? Discrimination of women? What about the discrimination against men? There are more women at colleges than men. Corporations are favoring hiring women over men. I guess we can blame the opioid crisis for that. When more men attended college than women, then it was sexist patriarchy. Now that more women are attending college than men, the media says it's the "natural" order. "“At the same time, the slower social development and more serious behavioral problems of boys remained and allowed girls to leapfrog over boys in the race to college.” In other words: As things got more equal for boys and girls, a natural advantage began to reveal itself." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/women-are-dominating-men-at-college-blame-sexism/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/... Can you imagine if a man said it is the "natural order" for more men to attend colleges than women? But yes, lets pretend that women are being discriminated against. Millions more women attend college than men, but it's the women being discriminated against. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/28/look-how-women-outnumber-men-college-campuses-nationwide/YROqwfCPSlKPtSMAzpWloK/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/28/look-how-women-...

dallashoxton 9y ago

To me, he's suggesting that the prevalence of general anti-men sentiment within the culture at large is partly responsible for men dropping out of society. College campuses declaring that all men are rapists until proven otherwise is symptomatic of that culture.

adekok 9y ago

I downvoted you because your comment is offensive and demeaning. The OP said men are attacked as rapists. There is just no way to interpret that as "decline of the acceptance of rape". As background, see: https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538974/ https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538974/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/06/devos-plans-title-ix-changes-in-wake-report-on-campus-denial-due-process.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/06/devos-plans-title... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/hey-lawyers-leave-them-kids-alone/20271 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/hey-lawyers-lea... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/13/columbia-university-settles-title-ix-lawsuit-with-former-student-involving-mattress-girl-case/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/1... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/21/catholic-university-found-him-responsible-for-a-sexual-assault-now-hes-suing-the-school/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/07/2... http://helpsaveoursons.com/category/court-wins/ http://helpsaveoursons.com/category/court-wins/ The typical University holds kangaroo trials for students accused of rape. Normal behavior includes: * denial of due process * refusing to see exculpatory evidence * "independent investigators" who assist the plaintiff * allowing the plaintiff to have representation, while denying it to the accused * refusing to let the accused question the plaintiff The accusation of rape is so evil that the universities fall all over themselves to violate their own investigative processes in order to convict the accused. These students (overwhelmingly male) lose everything. They lose not only time at university, they lose grants, membership in university organizations, jobs, etc. Their entire life is destroyed. So it's offensive for you to read that "men get attacked as rapists", and somehow turn that into a man-hating comment of a "decline in the acceptance of rape". Do you really hate men that much, that you think they're upset that rape is no longer "accepted"?

random_rr 9y ago

Your comment is gross. It is the exact opposite of charitable interpretation.