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I don't understand this. Why would the controversy be any less when releasing the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack vs the iPhone 8? Aren't they both new flagsh

by spuz 9y ago

I don't understand this. Why would the controversy be any less when releasing the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack vs the iPhone 8? Aren't they both new flagship models?

hbosch 9y ago
Because the iPhone 7 was released a year ago, and people are generally over it now. I say people, not enthusiasts. Now, the feature can be released in the iPhone 8 and it's not a big deal.
- spuz 9y ago
  But that doesn't explain why it would be preferable to remove the headphone jack in 2016 and have people be used to it by 2017, rather than the same but a year later. Whether there is technically room for a headphone jack means nothing to a consumer who would like to have one on their iPhone. As far as I can see there is no difference from the consumer's point of view which year the change happens in.
  - SerLava 9y ago
    There is. The iPhone 7 is the no headphone jack phone. The iPhone 8 will be the 100% screen phone. It also won't have a headphone jack. Big difference for how people think about that and how it gets talked about.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    > But that doesn't explain why it would be preferable to remove the headphone jack in 2016 and have people be used to it by 2017, rather than the same but a year later. Perception. People focus on something more when it changes, and there's only so much focus to go around. Remove the headphone jack a year earlier, and it's not a "change" that it's still missing from the next model. So focus/attention can be more concentrated on new features that Apple brings to the newer "10th anniversary" iPhone. "Yeah, but it still doesn't have a headphone jack" is a rational reaction, but not the one that most people will have. It's irrelevant background noise, compared to the shouts of "Look at all the new shiny!", which is the reaction that Apple's going for.
  - sushid 9y ago
    It's because the key takeaway with a newly 3.5mm jack-less iPhone 8 will be 1. no headphone jack and 2. 100% screen. Because they did this before on the iPhone 7, Apple execs are hoping that the key consumer takeaway for iPhone 8 will be 100% screen
wvenable 9y ago
The iPhone 7 is a small iteration over the iPhone 6S where as the iPhone 8 is a new design. I think they expect the iPhone 8 to be a much more important/larger release and that is probably true.
Dragonai 9y ago
The author of the original Reddit comment[0] meant that Apple wanted to bear the brunt of the controversy early on so that the missing headphone jack would already be "normal" and not the center of attention when the iPhone 8 releases. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6yhbuu/guy_adds_functional_headphone_jack_to_his_iphone_7/dmnohop/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6yhbuu/guy_adds_func...
dkonofalski 9y ago
The new iPhone is set to be released this year which makes it the 10th anniversary of the original iPhone. It's also (supposedly) a much larger redesign than previous models. I think it makes sense for them to rip the band-aid off early. Especially considering that most reviews for the AirPods have been overwhelmingly positive, it's good to get the negative press out of the way early. Smart move on their part, I think.
su30mki117 9y ago
Maybe they envisioned iPhone 8 to be a bigger game changer than the iPhone7 was.

by spuz 9y ago

I don't understand this. Why would the controversy be any less when releasing the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack vs the iPhone 8? Aren't they both new flagship models?

hbosch 9y ago

Because the iPhone 7 was released a year ago, and people are generally over it now. I say people, not enthusiasts. Now, the feature can be released in the iPhone 8 and it's not a big deal.

spuz 9y ago
But that doesn't explain why it would be preferable to remove the headphone jack in 2016 and have people be used to it by 2017, rather than the same but a year later. Whether there is technically room for a headphone jack means nothing to a consumer who would like to have one on their iPhone. As far as I can see there is no difference from the consumer's point of view which year the change happens in.
- SerLava 9y ago
  There is. The iPhone 7 is the no headphone jack phone. The iPhone 8 will be the 100% screen phone. It also won't have a headphone jack. Big difference for how people think about that and how it gets talked about.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  > But that doesn't explain why it would be preferable to remove the headphone jack in 2016 and have people be used to it by 2017, rather than the same but a year later. Perception. People focus on something more when it changes, and there's only so much focus to go around. Remove the headphone jack a year earlier, and it's not a "change" that it's still missing from the next model. So focus/attention can be more concentrated on new features that Apple brings to the newer "10th anniversary" iPhone. "Yeah, but it still doesn't have a headphone jack" is a rational reaction, but not the one that most people will have. It's irrelevant background noise, compared to the shouts of "Look at all the new shiny!", which is the reaction that Apple's going for.
- sushid 9y ago
  It's because the key takeaway with a newly 3.5mm jack-less iPhone 8 will be 1. no headphone jack and 2. 100% screen. Because they did this before on the iPhone 7, Apple execs are hoping that the key consumer takeaway for iPhone 8 will be 100% screen

wvenable 9y ago

The iPhone 7 is a small iteration over the iPhone 6S where as the iPhone 8 is a new design. I think they expect the iPhone 8 to be a much more important/larger release and that is probably true.

Dragonai 9y ago

The author of the original Reddit comment[0] meant that Apple wanted to bear the brunt of the controversy early on so that the missing headphone jack would already be "normal" and not the center of attention when the iPhone 8 releases. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6yhbuu/guy_adds_functional_headphone_jack_to_his_iphone_7/dmnohop/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6yhbuu/guy_adds_func...

dkonofalski 9y ago

The new iPhone is set to be released this year which makes it the 10th anniversary of the original iPhone. It's also (supposedly) a much larger redesign than previous models. I think it makes sense for them to rip the band-aid off early. Especially considering that most reviews for the AirPods have been overwhelmingly positive, it's good to get the negative press out of the way early. Smart move on their part, I think.

su30mki117 9y ago

Maybe they envisioned iPhone 8 to be a bigger game changer than the iPhone7 was.