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I make the argument that the majority of our interactions with law enforcement (for those of us who are otherwise generally well mannered) stem from some drivin

I make the argument that the majority of our interactions with law enforcement (for those of us who are otherwise generally well mannered) stem from some driving related instance. This is the true pathway for most of us to get tangled up in the [broken[ revolving door of the legal system. I am 100% all for self driving cars and look forward to owning one as soon as there are no controls for me to interact with at any time during travel. i.e. no steering wheel, no gas or brake pedals, nothing and therefore no reason to be pulled over. I want the car to be treated legally as an extension to my home; anything that I do / can do at home can also be done in the car. I want a cocktail? take it from the house into the car while it takes me to my destination.

craftyguy 9y ago
I think it would be a very long time, if ever, that all human control mechanisms are removed from an autonomous vehicle
turk183 9y ago
Why not just reform the legal system so that speed limits are not so prone to abuse and generally make it a rule that unless you are somehow at risk of harming others, that there is no crime? The victimization by police will continue, self-driving cars or no because we give agency to government to invade our lives via the 10,000,000 laws on the books.
evanlivingston 9y ago
That is to say, you want to limit your mobility to that which is directly and entirely under the control of legislated authority with no possibility of circumventing laws for one reason or another.
- rubicon33 9y ago
  I have long been arguing among friends and family that in the future it should be ILLEGAL to manually operate your vehicle without a special license. That license, would require to obtain it, a much more vigorous examination and approval than we currently have at the DMV. So, for those determined to manually operate their vehicle, there would always be the means for them to do so. But it should be sufficiently difficult that the average joe doesn't pursue it, given the utility of the self driving car.
jpindar 9y ago
They'll find some reason to pull you over. Police departments (and courts) aren't going to give up their revenue stream so easily.
droidist2 9y ago
Exactly, "Stop and Frisk" has no equivalent for drivers because it's already understood/accepted that the police can pull you over at any moment for a variety of reasons.

craftyguy 9y ago

I think it would be a very long time, if ever, that all human control mechanisms are removed from an autonomous vehicle

turk183 9y ago

Why not just reform the legal system so that speed limits are not so prone to abuse and generally make it a rule that unless you are somehow at risk of harming others, that there is no crime? The victimization by police will continue, self-driving cars or no because we give agency to government to invade our lives via the 10,000,000 laws on the books.

evanlivingston 9y ago

That is to say, you want to limit your mobility to that which is directly and entirely under the control of legislated authority with no possibility of circumventing laws for one reason or another.

rubicon33 9y ago
I have long been arguing among friends and family that in the future it should be ILLEGAL to manually operate your vehicle without a special license. That license, would require to obtain it, a much more vigorous examination and approval than we currently have at the DMV. So, for those determined to manually operate their vehicle, there would always be the means for them to do so. But it should be sufficiently difficult that the average joe doesn't pursue it, given the utility of the self driving car.

jpindar 9y ago

They'll find some reason to pull you over. Police departments (and courts) aren't going to give up their revenue stream so easily.

droidist2 9y ago

Exactly, "Stop and Frisk" has no equivalent for drivers because it's already understood/accepted that the police can pull you over at any moment for a variety of reasons.