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> That's the classic "lock-in" conspiracy theory. Why a "conspiracy theory"? Apple has a documented history of vendor lock-in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ve

> That's the classic "lock-in" conspiracy theory. Why a "conspiracy theory"? Apple has a documented history of vendor lock-in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in

coldtea 9y ago
What "documented history"? Noticed how all the link says is that Apple used to sell DRM music? First, that was a demand from the record companies. Second, Apple was actually the company whose's CEO took a public stand against DRM in music -- and eventually been able to remove it from their music store. That's hardly a "documented history" of Apple being active on that front.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  That's just an example. When you follow the WP link, you get to another example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.#Accusations_of_anti-competitive_behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.#Accusa...). There are plenty. For example, if you want to develop iOS apps, you are forced to buy a Mac. Technically, there's nothing to stop you from running macOS in a virtual machine, but Apple claims it's illegal and that you need to buy hardware from them. Everything, literally everything is well thought out as a way to make customers spend even more money. This is where Apple's marketing genius lies and this is where their huge profits are coming from. As another author writes (http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/apple-s-lock-in-strategy-114113000560_1.html http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/apple-s-...): > Apple has adopted the opposite stance creating proprietary hardware and platforms that firmly lock you into their ecosystem and this is one of the reasons why today, despite falling market share, it remains one of the world's most profitable companies.
  - valuearb 9y ago
    Apple almost got killed allowing clone makers. The fact that they don't allow it anymore isn't lock-in, it's common sense.
    - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
      One doesn't exclude the other. Think about the history of PC. Allowing clones might have been absurd from the point of view of IBM, but it caused a massive revolution that enormously benefited the society. Companies use vendor lock-in to maximize profits, it's something quite common among big players in the software industry - there is no need to pretend it doesn't exist or that Apple is avoiding it for some reason.
      - valuearb 9y ago
        Again, the one time Apple's financial position appeared headed towards bankruptcy was the one time they allowed clones. Their business model doesn't work with licensing, they learned that and will never forget it. They are very careful where they allow their technology to be used.

coldtea 9y ago

What "documented history"? Noticed how all the link says is that Apple used to sell DRM music? First, that was a demand from the record companies. Second, Apple was actually the company whose's CEO took a public stand against DRM in music -- and eventually been able to remove it from their music store. That's hardly a "documented history" of Apple being active on that front.

dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
That's just an example. When you follow the WP link, you get to another example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.#Accusations_of_anti-competitive_behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.#Accusa...). There are plenty. For example, if you want to develop iOS apps, you are forced to buy a Mac. Technically, there's nothing to stop you from running macOS in a virtual machine, but Apple claims it's illegal and that you need to buy hardware from them. Everything, literally everything is well thought out as a way to make customers spend even more money. This is where Apple's marketing genius lies and this is where their huge profits are coming from. As another author writes (http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/apple-s-lock-in-strategy-114113000560_1.html http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/apple-s-...): > Apple has adopted the opposite stance creating proprietary hardware and platforms that firmly lock you into their ecosystem and this is one of the reasons why today, despite falling market share, it remains one of the world's most profitable companies.
- valuearb 9y ago
  Apple almost got killed allowing clone makers. The fact that they don't allow it anymore isn't lock-in, it's common sense.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
    One doesn't exclude the other. Think about the history of PC. Allowing clones might have been absurd from the point of view of IBM, but it caused a massive revolution that enormously benefited the society. Companies use vendor lock-in to maximize profits, it's something quite common among big players in the software industry - there is no need to pretend it doesn't exist or that Apple is avoiding it for some reason.
    - valuearb 9y ago
      Again, the one time Apple's financial position appeared headed towards bankruptcy was the one time they allowed clones. Their business model doesn't work with licensing, they learned that and will never forget it. They are very careful where they allow their technology to be used.