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My S7 is IP68 water resistant and has a headphone jack. I don't think that's a challenge anyway. 1.5m for up to 30 minutes; enough time to retrieve from a toi

My S7 is IP68 water resistant and has a headphone jack. I don't think that's a challenge anyway. 1.5m for up to 30 minutes; enough time to retrieve from a toilet.

retSava 9y ago
Twice I've revived phones for others that fell (ha) for this unfortunate fate. Turn off immediately, disassemble as much as possible, rinse in clear water (tap for us, but it is not clorinated/flour), then dry in a bag of uncooked rice for a week or so. Boom. Instant Frankenstein phone. Feels good to save the world a little (through less waste).
- ss248 9y ago
  "dry in a bag of uncooked rice" Don't actually do this. It's a myth. You can only get rice dust inside your phone that way. That's the only thing you can possibly accomplish.
  - rusk 9y ago
    Is it? Usually we insist on people providing evidence to support controversial claims.
    - rusk 9y ago
      This article [0] appears to support your hypothesis but there's enough discussion in the comments that suggests their results can't be taken as conclusive. I've read the original Gazelle article [1] too, and their methods are far from being clear or rigorous. I'd need to see more replication before I'd consider this "myth" debunked. [0] https://smartphones.gadgethacks.com/how-to/myth-debunked-uncooked-rice-isnt-best-way-save-your-water-damaged-phone-0154799/ https://smartphones.gadgethacks.com/how-to/myth-debunked-unc... [1] https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-water-damage-truth-rice-galaxy-everything/?utm_campaign=314743&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=SAS https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-wa...
    - ss248 9y ago
      You think "rice usage" is not a controversial claim in the first place? You are trying to create "negative humidity" with rice. Are you serious right now? EDIT: Watch this rant from a guy who works in the repair shop. No need to watch the whole video, you can see the "results" of the rice "cleaning" in the first couple of minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeITOz2_YM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeITOz2_YM
      - rusk 9y ago
        it's called a dessicant. and it's not controversial if everybody agrees it works. you are in the minority here and you must support your position with facts. EDIT In fairness, I think in the last year we've moved beyond accepting a ranting guy on youtube as evidence. I've actually seen this guy and he's great on many topics. I can see, and appreciate where he's coming from but I don't think it disproves anything. Possible conflict of interest that should be declared is this guys fixes devices for a living and charges for the service.
        ss248 9y ago
        It's a common sense to me, but if you want, we can do the math. Should be pretty easy to calculate humidity and rice desiccant properties to end this joke once and for all. Logically, it should be better to let phone dry in open even, instead of creating closed space in the bag of rice. You can watch the video muted btw. PCB condition shows clearly the level of corrosion from just a little bit of moisture.
        cheeko1234 9y ago
        "If rice is placed in a sealed container, the air in the container will gain or lose moisture until it attains an equilibrium relative humidity (ERH) corresponding to the rice moisture and temperature." Source: http://www.kcomfg.com/_docs/pdfs/principles_of_rice_drying.pdf http://www.kcomfg.com/_docs/pdfs/principles_of_rice_drying.p...
        rusk 9y ago
        Mate, if you could do the math for me there, that'd be great.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      In what way is the idea that using "uncooked rice" to restore wet electronics the normal one, and challenging it is the "controversial claim"?
      - rusk 9y ago
        In that it's well established practice and I have a list of people who says it does. Versus a couple of internet grouches and a few guys selling device repair services that say it doesn't. To me, the science sounds plausible. Power it down, dry it up, introduce a desiccant to mop up what atmospheric moisture there is. Rice may not be the "best" desiccant available but it's commonly available and easily understood by most people. I'd appreciate it if you and your friend could demonstrate that this is false rather than throwing around snarky rhetoric.
  - bitL 9y ago
    > Don't actually do this. It's a myth I revived a display on a camera that got wet during a rain on Hawai'i after two years when I read about the "rice method" - it was working the next day. Similarly I saved a phone that went off my pocket into toilet - immediately removed battery, washed in water and packed in a box of rice for a day. Works still like new.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > Similarly I saved a phone that went off my pocket into toilet - immediately removed battery, washed in water and packed in a box of rice for a day. Works still like new. Done the same thing, without removing the battery or using rice (and done similar things with all kinds of electronics that have gotten wet over the years, again, without a desiccant.) If it doesn't short anything out causing permanent damage, electronics that can get water in them can usually also dry out. Magic rice or anti-bear talismans are not required. A dessicant near the device may help trivially by reducing the surrounding humidity and accelerating evaporation from the device, but just arranging proper ventilation probably works better than using a closed container with a desiccant in most environments.
      - bitL 9y ago
        I wish it was so easy; my camera a few years back, Canon TX1, got wet in one of those rains on Hawai'i and display could never turn on, thought camera was operating normally, taking pictures. I tried to put camera on a sunny place for weeks, didn't help. After two years I read something on forums somewhere about rice. I told myself I don't have anything to lose, so I put rice in a box and immersed camera with display open into it. After a day or so, I took it out and voila, display was working again! Though I must say there was rice dust present on display from inside. Obviously, I would have rather used another desiccant, but where could I buy such thing quickly and in required quantity?
      - rusk 9y ago
        oh come on it may not be an optimal solution but it's hardly "bear talisman" territory ...

My S7 is IP68 water resistant and has a headphone jack. I don't think that's a challenge anyway. 1.5m for up to 30 minutes; enough time to retrieve from a toilet.

retSava 9y ago

Twice I've revived phones for others that fell (ha) for this unfortunate fate. Turn off immediately, disassemble as much as possible, rinse in clear water (tap for us, but it is not clorinated/flour), then dry in a bag of uncooked rice for a week or so. Boom. Instant Frankenstein phone. Feels good to save the world a little (through less waste).

ss248 9y ago
"dry in a bag of uncooked rice" Don't actually do this. It's a myth. You can only get rice dust inside your phone that way. That's the only thing you can possibly accomplish.
- rusk 9y ago
  Is it? Usually we insist on people providing evidence to support controversial claims.
  - rusk 9y ago
    This article [0] appears to support your hypothesis but there's enough discussion in the comments that suggests their results can't be taken as conclusive. I've read the original Gazelle article [1] too, and their methods are far from being clear or rigorous. I'd need to see more replication before I'd consider this "myth" debunked. [0] https://smartphones.gadgethacks.com/how-to/myth-debunked-uncooked-rice-isnt-best-way-save-your-water-damaged-phone-0154799/ https://smartphones.gadgethacks.com/how-to/myth-debunked-unc... [1] https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-water-damage-truth-rice-galaxy-everything/?utm_campaign=314743&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=SAS https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-wa...
  - ss248 9y ago
    You think "rice usage" is not a controversial claim in the first place? You are trying to create "negative humidity" with rice. Are you serious right now? EDIT: Watch this rant from a guy who works in the repair shop. No need to watch the whole video, you can see the "results" of the rice "cleaning" in the first couple of minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeITOz2_YM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeITOz2_YM
    - rusk 9y ago
      it's called a dessicant. and it's not controversial if everybody agrees it works. you are in the minority here and you must support your position with facts. EDIT In fairness, I think in the last year we've moved beyond accepting a ranting guy on youtube as evidence. I've actually seen this guy and he's great on many topics. I can see, and appreciate where he's coming from but I don't think it disproves anything. Possible conflict of interest that should be declared is this guys fixes devices for a living and charges for the service.
      - ss248 9y ago
        It's a common sense to me, but if you want, we can do the math. Should be pretty easy to calculate humidity and rice desiccant properties to end this joke once and for all. Logically, it should be better to let phone dry in open even, instead of creating closed space in the bag of rice. You can watch the video muted btw. PCB condition shows clearly the level of corrosion from just a little bit of moisture.
        cheeko1234 9y ago
        "If rice is placed in a sealed container, the air in the container will gain or lose moisture until it attains an equilibrium relative humidity (ERH) corresponding to the rice moisture and temperature." Source: http://www.kcomfg.com/_docs/pdfs/principles_of_rice_drying.pdf http://www.kcomfg.com/_docs/pdfs/principles_of_rice_drying.p...
        rusk 9y ago
        Mate, if you could do the math for me there, that'd be great.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    In what way is the idea that using "uncooked rice" to restore wet electronics the normal one, and challenging it is the "controversial claim"?
    - rusk 9y ago
      In that it's well established practice and I have a list of people who says it does. Versus a couple of internet grouches and a few guys selling device repair services that say it doesn't. To me, the science sounds plausible. Power it down, dry it up, introduce a desiccant to mop up what atmospheric moisture there is. Rice may not be the "best" desiccant available but it's commonly available and easily understood by most people. I'd appreciate it if you and your friend could demonstrate that this is false rather than throwing around snarky rhetoric.
- bitL 9y ago
  > Don't actually do this. It's a myth I revived a display on a camera that got wet during a rain on Hawai'i after two years when I read about the "rice method" - it was working the next day. Similarly I saved a phone that went off my pocket into toilet - immediately removed battery, washed in water and packed in a box of rice for a day. Works still like new.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Similarly I saved a phone that went off my pocket into toilet - immediately removed battery, washed in water and packed in a box of rice for a day. Works still like new. Done the same thing, without removing the battery or using rice (and done similar things with all kinds of electronics that have gotten wet over the years, again, without a desiccant.) If it doesn't short anything out causing permanent damage, electronics that can get water in them can usually also dry out. Magic rice or anti-bear talismans are not required. A dessicant near the device may help trivially by reducing the surrounding humidity and accelerating evaporation from the device, but just arranging proper ventilation probably works better than using a closed container with a desiccant in most environments.
    - bitL 9y ago
      I wish it was so easy; my camera a few years back, Canon TX1, got wet in one of those rains on Hawai'i and display could never turn on, thought camera was operating normally, taking pictures. I tried to put camera on a sunny place for weeks, didn't help. After two years I read something on forums somewhere about rice. I told myself I don't have anything to lose, so I put rice in a box and immersed camera with display open into it. After a day or so, I took it out and voila, display was working again! Though I must say there was rice dust present on display from inside. Obviously, I would have rather used another desiccant, but where could I buy such thing quickly and in required quantity?
    - rusk 9y ago
      oh come on it may not be an optimal solution but it's hardly "bear talisman" territory ...