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^ There's a reason the majority of our armed forces hail from the south and midwest and not from the north and west. I didn't follow you, what reason are you t

by todd8 9y ago

^ There's a reason the majority of our armed forces hail from the south and midwest and not from the north and west. I didn't follow you, what reason are you thinking?

barrkel 9y ago
City people are similar by outlook, a kinship at an abstract level of education, profession and trade. Country people are connected directly to the land, and usually live near their relatives. Which group of people is more nomadic? Which is more likely to fight for their land?
- baldfat 9y ago
  I tend to see rural as more individualist. This map of the Nations of American is spot on. http://emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/images/features/upinarms-map-large.jpg http://emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/images/fea... America has many nations and the lack of dedicated voters and the large difference between rural and city voters continues to expand. Just look at NYC compared to New York State during the Presidential Election. People see things as "US" vs "THEM" and that gives way to the City State right here in America.
  - viridian 9y ago
    As someone intimately familiar with the politics and culture of Ohio, boy howdy does this chart fuck up really badly on the edges. For instance, Guernsey and Noble counties not considering themselves Appalachian is absurd. A case could maybe be made for the ones like Muskingum despite all the stuff named after the mountains in Zanesville, since it does import a bit of culture from Columbus, but some of these are just egregious. Franklin and Delaware counties both being labelled as Appalachian despite encompassing the greater Columbus metropolitan area as a whole is pretty laughable, as Columbus is the most Midwestern city in Ohio. I don't know if you can call this spot on if similar mistakes are made all over the borderlands of this map.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      Generalizations all are lost at specifics. Like looking at a landscape painting and then looking with a microscope. The painting is a landscape and it captures the emotions and feeling. The microscope is looking for something totally different. Well Borderlands are just that border lands. I lived on the Mexican border and you go 15 miles North or South and it was a completely different culture.
  - lhopki01 9y ago
    The US has a lack of dedicated voters because of it's voting system. There is not much point voting in a Presidential election in California or New York. That encourages people to think their vote doesn't matter. If every vote actually counted you'd have more dedicated voters.
- pnutjam 9y ago
  The south in general has a militaristic legacy, I could tell you why, but you probably know why. This is not to say that the rest of the country can't or won't step up, that mistake has been made in the past.
brad0 9y ago
This is my line of reasoning, not necessarily the OPs. There's a book called Thinking that (I think) covers this topic. I'm assuming you're a well educated man that had a good upbringing. As that man, do you want to go to war and kill people? Most likely not. Killing for war is morally a very grey area. A lot of well educated, intelligent people understand this. Why risk your life or your mental and physical health when you can go work an office job for six figures? Now imagine everyone in the USA was as educated as you. They all think the same thing. I don't want to be in the military. Not everyone has the opportunities you've been given. A lot of people in the south and Midwest have very little choices and opportunity in life. The military is most people's best option. Treating the USA as a single country means you get the military might from the less educated and the innovation from your more educated.
kiliantics 9y ago
The north won the war. And now they get people from the losing states to fight their new wars for them. Same thing happened with e.g. the Romans getting auxiliary soldiers from conquered lands to fight for them, or the Brits getting soldiers from India to fight in the world wars. Typical imperialism.

by todd8 9y ago

^ There's a reason the majority of our armed forces hail from the south and midwest and not from the north and west. I didn't follow you, what reason are you thinking?

barrkel 9y ago

City people are similar by outlook, a kinship at an abstract level of education, profession and trade. Country people are connected directly to the land, and usually live near their relatives. Which group of people is more nomadic? Which is more likely to fight for their land?

baldfat 9y ago
I tend to see rural as more individualist. This map of the Nations of American is spot on. http://emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/images/features/upinarms-map-large.jpg http://emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/images/fea... America has many nations and the lack of dedicated voters and the large difference between rural and city voters continues to expand. Just look at NYC compared to New York State during the Presidential Election. People see things as "US" vs "THEM" and that gives way to the City State right here in America.
- viridian 9y ago
  As someone intimately familiar with the politics and culture of Ohio, boy howdy does this chart fuck up really badly on the edges. For instance, Guernsey and Noble counties not considering themselves Appalachian is absurd. A case could maybe be made for the ones like Muskingum despite all the stuff named after the mountains in Zanesville, since it does import a bit of culture from Columbus, but some of these are just egregious. Franklin and Delaware counties both being labelled as Appalachian despite encompassing the greater Columbus metropolitan area as a whole is pretty laughable, as Columbus is the most Midwestern city in Ohio. I don't know if you can call this spot on if similar mistakes are made all over the borderlands of this map.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    Generalizations all are lost at specifics. Like looking at a landscape painting and then looking with a microscope. The painting is a landscape and it captures the emotions and feeling. The microscope is looking for something totally different. Well Borderlands are just that border lands. I lived on the Mexican border and you go 15 miles North or South and it was a completely different culture.
- lhopki01 9y ago
  The US has a lack of dedicated voters because of it's voting system. There is not much point voting in a Presidential election in California or New York. That encourages people to think their vote doesn't matter. If every vote actually counted you'd have more dedicated voters.
pnutjam 9y ago
The south in general has a militaristic legacy, I could tell you why, but you probably know why. This is not to say that the rest of the country can't or won't step up, that mistake has been made in the past.

brad0 9y ago

This is my line of reasoning, not necessarily the OPs. There's a book called Thinking that (I think) covers this topic. I'm assuming you're a well educated man that had a good upbringing. As that man, do you want to go to war and kill people? Most likely not. Killing for war is morally a very grey area. A lot of well educated, intelligent people understand this. Why risk your life or your mental and physical health when you can go work an office job for six figures? Now imagine everyone in the USA was as educated as you. They all think the same thing. I don't want to be in the military. Not everyone has the opportunities you've been given. A lot of people in the south and Midwest have very little choices and opportunity in life. The military is most people's best option. Treating the USA as a single country means you get the military might from the less educated and the innovation from your more educated.

kiliantics 9y ago

The north won the war. And now they get people from the losing states to fight their new wars for them. Same thing happened with e.g. the Romans getting auxiliary soldiers from conquered lands to fight for them, or the Brits getting soldiers from India to fight in the world wars. Typical imperialism.