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The recruiter's response isn't irrational. Very clear instructions are being given: put UNIX and Linux on your resume. Not tell me via e-mail. Then candidate go

The recruiter's response isn't irrational. Very clear instructions are being given: put UNIX and Linux on your resume. Not tell me via e-mail. Then candidate goes ahead and 'educates' the recruiter, and puts something other than UNIX (UNIX-like) on the resume. i.e., does not follow instructions. Clear no hire.

deathanatos 9y ago
> Very clear instructions are being given: put UNIX and Linux on your resume. Not tell me via e-mail. Even if that were the recruiter's intent, I don't think it's that clear. At no point in the conversation does the recruiter ever make an explicit request to have a resume with both of those on it. You might think there is an implied request from the recruiter for that, but I do not, and neither, it seems, did Stanley. The only point in the exchange that I can see where the recruiter requests a change to the resume is here: > […] we require having Unix experience. If you have it, could you update your resume and resend? Which he does.
flukus 9y ago
> Clear no hire. You'd rather higher a liar and someone that will follow instructions to the letter, even when they're incorrect? It sounds like you'd hire this useless recruiter.
- obstacle1 9y ago
  What? I don't care who gets hired. But when hiring at scale, if a candidate can't follow instructions, they don't get hired. It's a basic filter that is necessary when that many people are being considered. How many tens of thousands of university kids go through the hiring pipeline at Facebook each semester? When you are doing things at that scale, you need well-defined processes. The process here was we need you to put exactly what this position requires on your resume, probably because the resume needed to be OKd by some keyword-checking system. The candidate either was incapable of or refused to follow the process. Therefore, no hire.
mquander 9y ago
Hey, my grandparent comment clearly instructed you to email me responses, not post them here. Now you go ahead and "send" me this response, but you don't even email me a copy, i.e. do not follow instructions. Clear no hire.
nulagrithom 9y ago
But he put UNIX on his resume, and not UNIX-like. There's a screenshot that shows this.
- bodz 9y ago
  There are multiple screenshots of his resume. One of them says "UNIX", but does not include "Linux". The recruiter asked him to put both Unix and Linux on his resume. He then updated it to say "Linux and Unix-like". The recruiter again asked him to specifically put "Unix and Linux", but he still didn't. The recruiter does appear to be a little clueless with the terminology, but there could be several reasons for this. Oftentimes resumes are input into an automated system that searches for very specific keywords, or the resume might be going to an executive who is very specific about what they are looking for. At the end of the day, the recruiter gave very clear instructions on what to do. If Stanley had just followed those instructions and re-sent his resume, he'd probably be fine. Instead, he chose to be snarky and condescending in his response. The recruiter was very professional and STILL gave him a chance to fix his resume and re-send, but he still didn't.

deathanatos 9y ago

> Very clear instructions are being given: put UNIX and Linux on your resume. Not tell me via e-mail. Even if that were the recruiter's intent, I don't think it's that clear. At no point in the conversation does the recruiter ever make an explicit request to have a resume with both of those on it. You might think there is an implied request from the recruiter for that, but I do not, and neither, it seems, did Stanley. The only point in the exchange that I can see where the recruiter requests a change to the resume is here: > […] we require having Unix experience. If you have it, could you update your resume and resend? Which he does.

flukus 9y ago

> Clear no hire. You'd rather higher a liar and someone that will follow instructions to the letter, even when they're incorrect? It sounds like you'd hire this useless recruiter.

obstacle1 9y ago
What? I don't care who gets hired. But when hiring at scale, if a candidate can't follow instructions, they don't get hired. It's a basic filter that is necessary when that many people are being considered. How many tens of thousands of university kids go through the hiring pipeline at Facebook each semester? When you are doing things at that scale, you need well-defined processes. The process here was we need you to put exactly what this position requires on your resume, probably because the resume needed to be OKd by some keyword-checking system. The candidate either was incapable of or refused to follow the process. Therefore, no hire.

mquander 9y ago

Hey, my grandparent comment clearly instructed you to email me responses, not post them here. Now you go ahead and "send" me this response, but you don't even email me a copy, i.e. do not follow instructions. Clear no hire.

nulagrithom 9y ago

But he put UNIX on his resume, and not UNIX-like. There's a screenshot that shows this.

bodz 9y ago
There are multiple screenshots of his resume. One of them says "UNIX", but does not include "Linux". The recruiter asked him to put both Unix and Linux on his resume. He then updated it to say "Linux and Unix-like". The recruiter again asked him to specifically put "Unix and Linux", but he still didn't. The recruiter does appear to be a little clueless with the terminology, but there could be several reasons for this. Oftentimes resumes are input into an automated system that searches for very specific keywords, or the resume might be going to an executive who is very specific about what they are looking for. At the end of the day, the recruiter gave very clear instructions on what to do. If Stanley had just followed those instructions and re-sent his resume, he'd probably be fine. Instead, he chose to be snarky and condescending in his response. The recruiter was very professional and STILL gave him a chance to fix his resume and re-send, but he still didn't.