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> ...the tiny amount of pollution they produce in comparison to greater polluters A quick google search found this article with numbers pulled from a 2012 US E

> ...the tiny amount of pollution they produce in comparison to greater polluters A quick google search found this article with numbers pulled from a 2012 US Energy Information Administration (eia.gov) report: https://www.c2es.org/energy/source/oil https://www.c2es.org/energy/source/oil Transportation is the main consumer of petroleum, accounting for 70% of usage, of which 58% is light vehicles alone - so that's 40% of total - that's still far higher than "industrial" use of 25%. Tack on medium/heavy trucks which I assume includes F-150 trucks and giant off-road dump-trucks alike and it's more than half of total petroleum consumption. So no - eliminating fossil-fuels from personal transport alone, while leaving industry alone, will still have a huge beneficial impact on greenhouse gas production. But you forget the halo and knock-on effects: as the market adapts to service non-petrol consumers (e.g. fast EV chargers, battery-swap stations, etc) then industries will adapt to take advantage of them too - it wouldn't surprise me this meant the introduction of an EV John Deere tractor powered the same hot-swappable EV battery pack that might power a hypothetical Ford truck.

ams6110 9y ago
F-150 is a light duty truck.
csours 9y ago
F-150 through F-350 are all considered light vehicles. The 450-650 are Medium Duty. The 750 other trucks are considered Heavy Duty. (For GM vehicles append another 0 eg, 1500, 2500, 3500) Calling 250s and 350s Heavy Duty is mostly marketing, although, the current 3/4 and 1 Ton trucks are more capable than ever, so the marketing inflation does have some basis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
djrogers 9y ago
I think the problem is that you're eliminating the cleanest and most regulated segment of the market, so even if it's 40% of the FF used, it's a much smaller fraction of pollution produced.
- mikeyouse 9y ago
  Which is mostly irrelevant if carbon is your concern since CO2 emissions are fixed per unit of fuel.
  - DaiPlusPlus 9y ago
    > CO2 emissions are fixed per unit of fuel. Is this true though? Does it matter on the grade of fuel, or petrol vs diesel? I think I read that leaded fuel emits less CO2 than unleaded fuel, but I'd definitely choose more CO2 than lead in the air, tyvm.

ams6110 9y ago

F-150 is a light duty truck.

csours 9y ago

F-150 through F-350 are all considered light vehicles. The 450-650 are Medium Duty. The 750 other trucks are considered Heavy Duty. (For GM vehicles append another 0 eg, 1500, 2500, 3500) Calling 250s and 350s Heavy Duty is mostly marketing, although, the current 3/4 and 1 Ton trucks are more capable than ever, so the marketing inflation does have some basis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification

djrogers 9y ago

I think the problem is that you're eliminating the cleanest and most regulated segment of the market, so even if it's 40% of the FF used, it's a much smaller fraction of pollution produced.

mikeyouse 9y ago
Which is mostly irrelevant if carbon is your concern since CO2 emissions are fixed per unit of fuel.
- DaiPlusPlus 9y ago
  > CO2 emissions are fixed per unit of fuel. Is this true though? Does it matter on the grade of fuel, or petrol vs diesel? I think I read that leaded fuel emits less CO2 than unleaded fuel, but I'd definitely choose more CO2 than lead in the air, tyvm.