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I'm in my forties. I've been all around the country and have traveled internationally plenty. I have never been in a restaurant and had any animal jump on my

I'm in my forties. I've been all around the country and have traveled internationally plenty. I have never been in a restaurant and had any animal jump on my lap, invited or not, service animal or not. And I've ate at plenty of dog friendly cafes. Your experience is unique and frankly strange. I've never heard a similar anecdote. As a person who has had canine companions for the bulk of my life I would never allow such a thing to happen in my own home let alone at a restaurant.

kelnos 9y ago
> Your experience is unique and frankly strange. It not happening to you in no way makes it unique or strange. I'm in my mid 30s and have likewise been all around the country and have traveled internationally plenty. I see everything from well-behaved dogs sitting there doing nothing, to annoying dogs wandering around, stretching to the end of their too-long leash, rubbing against people's legs and going under tables, to actually jumping at (not necessarily on) people's laps. Don't get me wrong, the majority of dogs I see in public places are reasonably well-behaved. But there are enough that aren't where IMO it becomes a big problem. Perhaps SF's dog owners just suck more than in most other places. I would definitely believe that. Most of the dog owners I know have given their dogs minimal to no useful training and have little control over them aside from what they get just by having them on a leash. Everyone here is "busy" all the time and I wouldn't be surprised that on average they walk their dogs less than people in other places. Add that to small apartment sizes, and you end up with restless dogs that are unable to expend the energy they need to. And maybe that's it -- I can't remember an instance where this has happened to me outside the bay area. I assumed that was because, since I live here, I have orders of magnitude more experience with restaurants here, but maybe there's more to it than just that.
- Steeeve 9y ago
  I spend a lot of time in the city and I've never had a dog put his paws on me - not even in the Presidio sitting on the ground with food or a ball - and I'm very dog friendly. I know things are different in different parts of the city, but forty some years of being dog friendly and spending a lot of time in dog friendly cafes and parks and I've had nothing near to your experience. Do you walk around with bacon in your pockets? Sounds to me like an exaggeration.

kelnos 9y ago

> Your experience is unique and frankly strange. It not happening to you in no way makes it unique or strange. I'm in my mid 30s and have likewise been all around the country and have traveled internationally plenty. I see everything from well-behaved dogs sitting there doing nothing, to annoying dogs wandering around, stretching to the end of their too-long leash, rubbing against people's legs and going under tables, to actually jumping at (not necessarily on) people's laps. Don't get me wrong, the majority of dogs I see in public places are reasonably well-behaved. But there are enough that aren't where IMO it becomes a big problem. Perhaps SF's dog owners just suck more than in most other places. I would definitely believe that. Most of the dog owners I know have given their dogs minimal to no useful training and have little control over them aside from what they get just by having them on a leash. Everyone here is "busy" all the time and I wouldn't be surprised that on average they walk their dogs less than people in other places. Add that to small apartment sizes, and you end up with restless dogs that are unable to expend the energy they need to. And maybe that's it -- I can't remember an instance where this has happened to me outside the bay area. I assumed that was because, since I live here, I have orders of magnitude more experience with restaurants here, but maybe there's more to it than just that.

Steeeve 9y ago
I spend a lot of time in the city and I've never had a dog put his paws on me - not even in the Presidio sitting on the ground with food or a ball - and I'm very dog friendly. I know things are different in different parts of the city, but forty some years of being dog friendly and spending a lot of time in dog friendly cafes and parks and I've had nothing near to your experience. Do you walk around with bacon in your pockets? Sounds to me like an exaggeration.