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> If I say Marxism is evil, aren't I also vilifying subscribers to that philosophy? Yes, and I would not be surprised to see people challenging that statement/

> If I say Marxism is evil, aren't I also vilifying subscribers to that philosophy? Yes, and I would not be surprised to see people challenging that statement/asking for facts. > > Comparing a political stance to a disease does affect the users > I can't see how. See my example from the post you quoted. Does it make sense? Try to put yourself in the shoes of a professional, successful PHP programmer who is aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the language & is comfortable weighing up the various trade-offs.

Chris2048 9y ago
> I would not be surprised to see people challenging that statement/asking for facts. Then we disagree. I distinguish ideology from person. > Try to put yourself in the shoes of a professional, successful PHP programmer I'd say that programmer has too much of their ego invested in their choice of language. The question is not of being merely unhappy about criticism, but being personally affected. Would you happily say the same wrt criticism of a belief in flat-earth?
- falsedan 9y ago
  > I distinguish ideology from person So do I? Bit of a non-sequitur… > Would you happily say the same wrt criticism of a belief in flat-earth? Happily? What a loaded question. Would I expect a flat-earther to respond to claims which criticized their point-of-view by requesting evidence? Yes I would. edit > The question is not of being merely unhappy about criticism, but being personally affected. People are affected by criticism simply by receiving it. Feeling unhappy because of criticism is being personally affected. Words can harm and kill.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    > So do I? Do you? you said you agree that "X is evil" villifies subscribers that philosophy. > Feeling unhappy because of criticism is being personally affected Not really, there is a difference between "I am a bad person" and "I subscribe to a bad ideology". The difference is you can un-subscribe if persuaded. > Words can harm and kill that's a non-sequitur..
    - falsedan 9y ago
      You seem more interested in scoring points than in a genuine discussion. > Do you? you said you agree that "X is evil" villifies subscribers that philosophy. It does. That's what those words mean. I didn't say I would find them evil (which is what you're claiming I meant). You haven't asked me how I feel about any particular economical-political theory. Is there something I could say that would cause you to reconsider your stance? If there is not, then please consider if this is the most productive use of your time.
      - Chris2048 9y ago
        > You seem more interested in scoring I disagree. Care to back up that personal insult? > Is there something I could say that would cause you to reconsider your stance? Same to you.

Chris2048 9y ago

> I would not be surprised to see people challenging that statement/asking for facts. Then we disagree. I distinguish ideology from person. > Try to put yourself in the shoes of a professional, successful PHP programmer I'd say that programmer has too much of their ego invested in their choice of language. The question is not of being merely unhappy about criticism, but being personally affected. Would you happily say the same wrt criticism of a belief in flat-earth?

falsedan 9y ago
> I distinguish ideology from person So do I? Bit of a non-sequitur… > Would you happily say the same wrt criticism of a belief in flat-earth? Happily? What a loaded question. Would I expect a flat-earther to respond to claims which criticized their point-of-view by requesting evidence? Yes I would. edit > The question is not of being merely unhappy about criticism, but being personally affected. People are affected by criticism simply by receiving it. Feeling unhappy because of criticism is being personally affected. Words can harm and kill.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  > So do I? Do you? you said you agree that "X is evil" villifies subscribers that philosophy. > Feeling unhappy because of criticism is being personally affected Not really, there is a difference between "I am a bad person" and "I subscribe to a bad ideology". The difference is you can un-subscribe if persuaded. > Words can harm and kill that's a non-sequitur..
  - falsedan 9y ago
    You seem more interested in scoring points than in a genuine discussion. > Do you? you said you agree that "X is evil" villifies subscribers that philosophy. It does. That's what those words mean. I didn't say I would find them evil (which is what you're claiming I meant). You haven't asked me how I feel about any particular economical-political theory. Is there something I could say that would cause you to reconsider your stance? If there is not, then please consider if this is the most productive use of your time.
    - Chris2048 9y ago
      > You seem more interested in scoring I disagree. Care to back up that personal insult? > Is there something I could say that would cause you to reconsider your stance? Same to you.