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Real power sits with Merkel.
by ForRealsies 9y ago
Real power sits with Merkel.
- wiz21c 9y agoOr Erdogan ?
- VeejayRampay 9y agoTurkey is not part of the EU yet. I don't see how exactly the power "sits with Erdoğan".
- wiz21c 9y agoErdogan controls a massive amount of refugees. Moreover, there's one or two pipelines crossing Turkey and I'm sure that helps to control things a bit too. Of course I'm no politician, I've no access to confidential information, but I'm sure he might use that to influence Europe (and there's nothing wrong with that, that's international politics as usual).
- d33 9y agoWell, I heard people say he controls the flow of the "refugees", so he gets to make some decisions.
- Cthulhu_ 9y agoHe can (and does) use that for leverage, but then, so could Italy, Spain, and Greece. I don't think he can get into the EU under threat of letting refugees through though, not while there's violations of human rights and such still going on in his country.
- allendoerfer 9y agoTurkey also won't be part of the EU. Both Merkel and her contestant for the current election stated on Sunday, that they have had enough and want to abort the negotiations about Turkey joining.
- mathw 9y agoEven if they didn't abort, recent developments in Turkey have moved them significantly further away from meeting requirements for entry .
- VeejayRampay 9y agoJust because we're hitting a bump along the road doesn't mean they won't join eventually. And I hope they do, they belong in the Union with us.
- Pica_soO 9y agoErdogan and the whole European east (Greece, Bulgaria, Ukraine) expansion was always just a big part of the anti-European strategy to binge grow this polit-amobea to death. And it has worked, in so far that it has accelerated the probable demise forward by at least twenty years. Europe was always just a half hearted dream by its elites, who where not even enough into this vision, to share their power with the institutions they created. Now after the very same dream, has allowed for the life-standard growth of most of its citizens to disappear - they are in for a rude wake up with extremists devouring the corpse.
- notzorbo3 9y agoLiterally nothing you're saying makes any sense on any level. This looks more like markov-chain generated text.
- Pica_soO 9y agoWhat about over-stretching a expansionist movement as a counter strategy does not make sense? Europe has grown hard, not smart. It never evaluated what it integrated, and as a result, is more unstable then ever.
- asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y agoThere is some truth in the idea that the growth of the EU was intended to slow down the process of federalization. The UK pushed hard for the growth in the 2000's and was also a proponent of Turkey joining for these reasons.
- allendoerfer 9y ago> Now after the very same dream, has allowed for the life-standard growth of most of its citizens to disappear - they are in for a rude wake up with extremists devouring the corpse. What are you even talking about? We just had an Australian guest, who drove freely through Europe using one currency. These states previously fought two world wars against each other.
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- nthcolumn 9y agoNot part or ever will be it seems. Their application officially just recently being moved to the out tray.