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> let state = typeof behavior.init === "function" ? behavior.init() : {}; Javascript is such a mess itself, i don't know how one can explain something in it

> let state = typeof behavior.init === "function" ? behavior.init() : {}; Javascript is such a mess itself, i don't know how one can explain something in it. Choose python, reads like English.

qaq 9y ago
You can write ugly code in any lang.
faitswulff 9y ago
It's not unique to javascript. The equivalent in ruby would be `state = behavior.init.class = Method ? behavior.init : {}` After looking it up, I don't disagree that Python looks a lot prettier, though: `state = behavior.init() if callable(behavior.init) else {}` That made me curious if Ruby had anything like Python's `callable`, but I couldn't find anything. This is my best effort in Ruby for aesthetics: `state = if behavior.init.respond_to? :call then behavior.init() else {} end` In the end, I agree, Javascript looks much worse than the equivalent Python in this case. Unfortunately I don't get a choice of python on the frontend :p
- jack_jennings 9y ago
  Closer to idomatic Ruby: state = behavior.respond_to? :init ? behavior.init : {} Asking an object if something is "callable" in Ruby is probably unnecesarily verbose, as you are most likely dealing with a method for any attribute access.
Can_Not 9y ago
Slower, poor portability to android/iOS/browser, no typescript/flow (no, those things aren't like typescript or flow), async/await is an afterthought instead of a cornerstone, just because you didn't like an obscure one liner out of context, no thanks.
seangrogg 9y ago
Realistically, if he weren't opting to be as terse as possible, this could be rewritten as: var state; if (typeof behavior.init === "function") { state = behavior.init(); } else { state = {}; } I do enjoy terse ternary operations but they can get very ugly very quickly. I often stick if/else if I'm writing code for others. As far as choosing another language, write Python that gets executed on Chrome without further trans/compilation and I'll happily consider it.

> let state = typeof behavior.init === "function" ? behavior.init() : {}; Javascript is such a mess itself, i don't know how one can explain something in it. Choose python, reads like English.

qaq 9y ago

You can write ugly code in any lang.

faitswulff 9y ago

It's not unique to javascript. The equivalent in ruby would be `state = behavior.init.class = Method ? behavior.init : {}` After looking it up, I don't disagree that Python looks a lot prettier, though: `state = behavior.init() if callable(behavior.init) else {}` That made me curious if Ruby had anything like Python's `callable`, but I couldn't find anything. This is my best effort in Ruby for aesthetics: `state = if behavior.init.respond_to? :call then behavior.init() else {} end` In the end, I agree, Javascript looks much worse than the equivalent Python in this case. Unfortunately I don't get a choice of python on the frontend :p

jack_jennings 9y ago
Closer to idomatic Ruby: state = behavior.respond_to? :init ? behavior.init : {} Asking an object if something is "callable" in Ruby is probably unnecesarily verbose, as you are most likely dealing with a method for any attribute access.

Can_Not 9y ago

Slower, poor portability to android/iOS/browser, no typescript/flow (no, those things aren't like typescript or flow), async/await is an afterthought instead of a cornerstone, just because you didn't like an obscure one liner out of context, no thanks.

seangrogg 9y ago

Realistically, if he weren't opting to be as terse as possible, this could be rewritten as: var state; if (typeof behavior.init === "function") { state = behavior.init(); } else { state = {}; } I do enjoy terse ternary operations but they can get very ugly very quickly. I often stick if/else if I'm writing code for others. As far as choosing another language, write Python that gets executed on Chrome without further trans/compilation and I'll happily consider it.