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You say "bullshit charges" like having a dog is of zero consequence. Maybe your dog is the one that never comes in with muddy feet, never has an accident, or ne

You say "bullshit charges" like having a dog is of zero consequence. Maybe your dog is the one that never comes in with muddy feet, never has an accident, or never scratches or chews a thing, but even if it is, it isn't bullshit for a landlord to try and manage the cost.

LnxPrgr3 9y ago
Non-refundable deposits are. If you really do have a model pet that damages nothing, why does the landlord get to keep your deposit anyway? I can grant, say, compulsory carpet replacement—but even then, what if you live there 10 years and the carpet really ought to be replaced whether you had a pet or not? And do two pets double the cost of replacing the carpet? (Also I know for a fact scroogier landlords will leave the old carpet in when they really shouldn't—when it's 10 years old, the last tenant's cat peed all over it, and also the last tenant chainsmoked indoors. But they'll still collect a non-refundable pet deposit, and probably bill for cleaning in excess of deposits even when that cleaning did not happen.) Why is that reasonable risk management and not gouging?
- sokoloff 9y ago
  If you drove for a whole year without a car accident, why does your insurance company get to keep your insurance payments anyway?
  - LnxPrgr3 9y ago
    Because I'm buying the service of them paying my liability, and also my own damages if I opt for it, if suddenly I crash. They sell the service of protecting you from financial risk. A car insurance policy that costs $400 once but only pays for $400 worth of damage ever, and isn't refundable, is a bad deal. No one would buy this unless forced to. False equivalence.
kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
Babies and small kids do a lot of the same, and small kids will scribble on walls with crayons and potentially more permanent markers. Should people pay extra for that too? In American society, pets are considered close to family in a lot of ways, and that ought to reflect in everything.
- bogomipz 9y ago
  >"In American society, pets are considered close to family in a lot of ways, and that ought to reflect in everything." Not it should not. Dogs are not people! And they should not have the same rights as people. What a ridiculous statement that is. This whole idea that regular non-service dogs should be allowed everywhere a person is seems to be a product of the ever-increasing narcissism in our society.
- WillPostForFood 9y ago
  They used to be able to, but it was made illegal by the Fair Housing Act in 1968. As a parent who has rented, they probably should be able to ask for extra money.

LnxPrgr3 9y ago

Non-refundable deposits are. If you really do have a model pet that damages nothing, why does the landlord get to keep your deposit anyway? I can grant, say, compulsory carpet replacement—but even then, what if you live there 10 years and the carpet really ought to be replaced whether you had a pet or not? And do two pets double the cost of replacing the carpet? (Also I know for a fact scroogier landlords will leave the old carpet in when they really shouldn't—when it's 10 years old, the last tenant's cat peed all over it, and also the last tenant chainsmoked indoors. But they'll still collect a non-refundable pet deposit, and probably bill for cleaning in excess of deposits even when that cleaning did not happen.) Why is that reasonable risk management and not gouging?

sokoloff 9y ago
If you drove for a whole year without a car accident, why does your insurance company get to keep your insurance payments anyway?
- LnxPrgr3 9y ago
  Because I'm buying the service of them paying my liability, and also my own damages if I opt for it, if suddenly I crash. They sell the service of protecting you from financial risk. A car insurance policy that costs $400 once but only pays for $400 worth of damage ever, and isn't refundable, is a bad deal. No one would buy this unless forced to. False equivalence.

kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago

Babies and small kids do a lot of the same, and small kids will scribble on walls with crayons and potentially more permanent markers. Should people pay extra for that too? In American society, pets are considered close to family in a lot of ways, and that ought to reflect in everything.

bogomipz 9y ago
>"In American society, pets are considered close to family in a lot of ways, and that ought to reflect in everything." Not it should not. Dogs are not people! And they should not have the same rights as people. What a ridiculous statement that is. This whole idea that regular non-service dogs should be allowed everywhere a person is seems to be a product of the ever-increasing narcissism in our society.
WillPostForFood 9y ago
They used to be able to, but it was made illegal by the Fair Housing Act in 1968. As a parent who has rented, they probably should be able to ask for extra money.