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And this is in Caifornia, one of the most liberal states. I shudder at the thought of how it must be like in Deep South.
by smnrchrds 9y ago
And this is in Caifornia, one of the most liberal states. I shudder at the thought of how it must be like in Deep South.
- tptacek 9y agoIt's not hard to find out; just search "service dog fraud" and [southern state], for instance, to find out that Alabama appears to have no such law, while Texas will fine you for trying to pass off a dog as a service animal (but apparently hasn't done so in a long time).
- danso 9y agoPolitical affiliation and number of laws and regulations aren't obviously correlated. How many red states/cities have the same fines and taxes for grocery bags and improper garbage sorting?
- dsfyu404ed 9y agoGenerally speaking the left states are also the most authoritarian states. If you can think of it CA probably has a law regulating it and criminalizing failure to comply. Whether a state is left or right leaning does not have any bearing on whether it is highly authoritarian or not. It just so happens that the general pattern in the US is high population -> lots of laws -> left leaning.
- sdenton4 9y ago"...authoritarian..." I don't think that word means what you think it means... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
- WillPostForFood 9y agofavoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. Maybe you didn't understand what he meant, because authoritarian makes perfect sense in the context he was using it.
- sdenton4 9y agoOn the contrary, authoritarian governments are not democratic, which is illustrated by the example sentence in the OED definition you've provided (but not cited): ‘the transition from an authoritarian to a democratic regime’ Any engagement with the word more serious than a dictionary lookup will indicate that regulation and authoritarianism are not at all the same thing. Restricting the access of pets to restaurants is not the same as the dismantlement of civil society to enable a one-party regime.
- WillPostForFood 9y agoIt is authoritarian behaviour, not literally an authoritarian form of government.
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago>favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. Thank you. This is exactly how I meant it
- sealthedeal 9y agoNot to get political, but I believe the commenter used the word correctly. It is also a well known fact that the left is more authoritarian.
- jwhitlark 9y agoThat seems an odd claim, as right leaning states have the highest incarceration rates per capita. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_incarceration_and_correctional_supervision_rate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_incar...
- zeveb 9y agoHigher incarceration rates do not on their own imply higher authoritarianism; they might also imply a higher number of lawbreakers, even with a lower number of laws. A more-competent police & legal system might also yield more prisoners, even with identical laws and an identical infraction rate.
- jwhitlark 9y agoWell, I would say that higher incarceration rates do not prove higher authoritarianism, but that is a reasonable implication. I think "count of individuals deprived of freedom of movement" is likely a stronger signal than "count of laws on books".