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We already have; do you not have defacto relationships or civil unions with comparable rights as married couples in your country?

fosk 9y ago
In a society that offers both, why would anybody choose marriage over a civil union?
- northwest65 9y ago
  The reverse could also be asked.
  - amiga-workbench 9y ago
    There are no religious associations with the practise, that's important for me personally.
    - northwest65 9y ago
      Fair enough. I'm a non-believer so I simply give that aspect no import.
- AnimalMuppet 9y ago
  If they're the same, what difference does it make what name you put on it? But if they're different... well, my perception is that by "marriage" you mean something permanent, and by "civil union" you mean something at least potentially temporary. When we got married, "temporary" wasn't an option. We wanted to make something permanent, something we weren't going to back out of. That was our intention then, and it's our intention now. Why? Well, maybe I could put it this way. When you find an amazing place with really inexpensive rent, how long of a lease do you want to sign?
  - fosk 9y ago
    No. Two people can and should be together forever if that's what they want. It can be permanent even without a traditional marriage. > We wanted to make something permanent, something we weren't going to back out of. Couldn't the same statement be made without signing a piece of paper? Isn't mutual love, understanding, affection, protection between each other enough to make this statement? What are we afraid of? That without marriage maybe one day some of this love, affection and protection will go away? But if it's really strong, aren't we going to find again mutual understanding with our partner and fix it anyways, with or without a marriage? And if that piece of paper is really the only thing holding two people together, shouldn't they re-consider that maybe they are not meant for each other and there is another person out there who is waiting for them? > When you find an amazing place with really inexpensive rent, how long of a lease do you want to sign? If I told you that this place could be yours forever even without signing a lease, you could just move in and enjoy it for the rest of your life for how long as you wanted, why would you sign the lease anyways?
- twothamendment 9y ago
  Some people prefer commitment while others appear to want to be able to walk away as soon as "love" is gone. It seems that marriage is a crazy idea to you. Your "modern" ideas seem crazy to me. To each his own.
- dennisgorelik 9y ago
  Because marriage assumes deeper commitment. It is easier to have children when family has a deeper commitment. People who choose to have no children - are eliminated by natural selection (alongside with their choice of avoiding marriage).

fosk 9y ago

In a society that offers both, why would anybody choose marriage over a civil union?

northwest65 9y ago
The reverse could also be asked.
- amiga-workbench 9y ago
  There are no religious associations with the practise, that's important for me personally.
  - northwest65 9y ago
    Fair enough. I'm a non-believer so I simply give that aspect no import.
AnimalMuppet 9y ago
If they're the same, what difference does it make what name you put on it? But if they're different... well, my perception is that by "marriage" you mean something permanent, and by "civil union" you mean something at least potentially temporary. When we got married, "temporary" wasn't an option. We wanted to make something permanent, something we weren't going to back out of. That was our intention then, and it's our intention now. Why? Well, maybe I could put it this way. When you find an amazing place with really inexpensive rent, how long of a lease do you want to sign?
- fosk 9y ago
  No. Two people can and should be together forever if that's what they want. It can be permanent even without a traditional marriage. > We wanted to make something permanent, something we weren't going to back out of. Couldn't the same statement be made without signing a piece of paper? Isn't mutual love, understanding, affection, protection between each other enough to make this statement? What are we afraid of? That without marriage maybe one day some of this love, affection and protection will go away? But if it's really strong, aren't we going to find again mutual understanding with our partner and fix it anyways, with or without a marriage? And if that piece of paper is really the only thing holding two people together, shouldn't they re-consider that maybe they are not meant for each other and there is another person out there who is waiting for them? > When you find an amazing place with really inexpensive rent, how long of a lease do you want to sign? If I told you that this place could be yours forever even without signing a lease, you could just move in and enjoy it for the rest of your life for how long as you wanted, why would you sign the lease anyways?
twothamendment 9y ago
Some people prefer commitment while others appear to want to be able to walk away as soon as "love" is gone. It seems that marriage is a crazy idea to you. Your "modern" ideas seem crazy to me. To each his own.
dennisgorelik 9y ago
Because marriage assumes deeper commitment. It is easier to have children when family has a deeper commitment. People who choose to have no children - are eliminated by natural selection (alongside with their choice of avoiding marriage).