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Microsoft offered to aid employees affected by Trump’s DACA decision

20 points by betolink 9y ago

dangthrowaway 9y ago
We've been a nation of legal immigrants who built a nation of laws. Criminals, which every illegal immigrant is, have no place in this nation.
slededit 9y ago
They provide immigration support to anyone who's not a permanent resident or citizen so this isn't particularly surprising. But I guess its worth getting some press.
socmedon 9y ago
Microsoft has around 36 employees on DACA, and they will do whatever it takes to help them. All good. At the same time they will do everything -- behind the scene -- to keep 5000+ of their H1-B employees from India/China remain on H1-B visa for next 70+ years of their life [1] [2]. The reason being, an H1-B employee is tied as an indentured servant to their employer. If you are an H1-B employee here is how it works: You get sick, you cannot work, you get fired; your get laid off; you have to sell your car, sell your house, pull kids out of the school and get out of the country. I'm an H1-B employee working in US for past 12 years waiting for my Green Card. Since last one year I'm suffering severe health issues and is on high dose of pain killers just to make sure I can show up at my work. The day I can't, I lose my legal status, and my family will get deported. My kids, who are born here will also get indirectly deported. So, not surprisingly they love employees like that, and will never speak for them. Also, the Kids of an H1-B employee who are not born in US, gets deported once they cross 21 years of age, since the H1-B employee cannot claim those kids as their dependent. The cruel part is, even DACA does not help these kids, because, to be eligible for DACA, that child should have been in US illegal [3]. So, for me, Microsoft is one of the most morally bankrupt IT companies out there. [1] https://www.cato.org/blog/no-one-knows-how-long-legal-immigrants-will-have-wait https://www.cato.org/blog/no-one-knows-how-long-legal-immigr... [2] https://twitter.com/RepKevinYoder/status/890640332387303425 https://twitter.com/RepKevinYoder/status/890640332387303425 [3] https://www.cato.org/blog/congress-should-help-young-legal-immigrant-dreamers-too https://www.cato.org/blog/congress-should-help-young-legal-i...
- mavelikara 9y ago
  FWIW, Microsoft did announce their support for HR 392 earlier when Congressman Jason Chaffetz introduced it. HR 392 removes the per-country GC caps, with the aim to remove the decades+ wait for immigrants from populous countries. Your general point about tech leaders who shed copious tears on social media for Dreamers stand.
  - socmedon 9y ago
    Of course they did. There is no way they cannot provide a letter when asked for their support for H.R.392. The point is their PR machinery (like, the articles seen now on DACA) or the lobbyist would spend zero time for their H1-B employees.
legostormtroopr 9y ago
I fail to understand why people object so much to enforcing border policies now days. I feel bad for any children impacted, but their parents chose to illegally immigrate. It sucks they are punished for it, but enforcing the law to preserve the way of life for its legal citizens should be a governments top priority. Legal immigration options exist, and legal immigrantz amd refugees should be welcomed with open arms. But if you don't take those options or don't meet the criteria you can't complain you aren't able to stay.
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20 points by betolink 9y ago

We've been a nation of legal immigrants who built a nation of laws. Criminals, which every illegal immigrant is, have no place in this nation.

slededit 9y ago

They provide immigration support to anyone who's not a permanent resident or citizen so this isn't particularly surprising. But I guess its worth getting some press.

socmedon 9y ago

Microsoft has around 36 employees on DACA, and they will do whatever it takes to help them. All good. At the same time they will do everything -- behind the scene -- to keep 5000+ of their H1-B employees from India/China remain on H1-B visa for next 70+ years of their life [1] [2]. The reason being, an H1-B employee is tied as an indentured servant to their employer. If you are an H1-B employee here is how it works: You get sick, you cannot work, you get fired; your get laid off; you have to sell your car, sell your house, pull kids out of the school and get out of the country. I'm an H1-B employee working in US for past 12 years waiting for my Green Card. Since last one year I'm suffering severe health issues and is on high dose of pain killers just to make sure I can show up at my work. The day I can't, I lose my legal status, and my family will get deported. My kids, who are born here will also get indirectly deported. So, not surprisingly they love employees like that, and will never speak for them. Also, the Kids of an H1-B employee who are not born in US, gets deported once they cross 21 years of age, since the H1-B employee cannot claim those kids as their dependent. The cruel part is, even DACA does not help these kids, because, to be eligible for DACA, that child should have been in US illegal [3]. So, for me, Microsoft is one of the most morally bankrupt IT companies out there. [1] https://www.cato.org/blog/no-one-knows-how-long-legal-immigrants-will-have-wait https://www.cato.org/blog/no-one-knows-how-long-legal-immigr... [2] https://twitter.com/RepKevinYoder/status/890640332387303425 https://twitter.com/RepKevinYoder/status/890640332387303425 [3] https://www.cato.org/blog/congress-should-help-young-legal-immigrant-dreamers-too https://www.cato.org/blog/congress-should-help-young-legal-i...

mavelikara 9y ago
FWIW, Microsoft did announce their support for HR 392 earlier when Congressman Jason Chaffetz introduced it. HR 392 removes the per-country GC caps, with the aim to remove the decades+ wait for immigrants from populous countries. Your general point about tech leaders who shed copious tears on social media for Dreamers stand.
- socmedon 9y ago
  Of course they did. There is no way they cannot provide a letter when asked for their support for H.R.392. The point is their PR machinery (like, the articles seen now on DACA) or the lobbyist would spend zero time for their H1-B employees.

legostormtroopr 9y ago

I fail to understand why people object so much to enforcing border policies now days. I feel bad for any children impacted, but their parents chose to illegally immigrate. It sucks they are punished for it, but enforcing the law to preserve the way of life for its legal citizens should be a governments top priority. Legal immigration options exist, and legal immigrantz amd refugees should be welcomed with open arms. But if you don't take those options or don't meet the criteria you can't complain you aren't able to stay.

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