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into space Hmmm, that seems like a click-bait statement. Between the air conditioner and even low earth orbit, there's plenty of atmosphere that will soak up s

into space Hmmm, that seems like a click-bait statement. Between the air conditioner and even low earth orbit, there's plenty of atmosphere that will soak up some of the beam's heat, no?

mikeyouse 9y ago
No offense, but did you read the article? It's directly addressed: > So Raman and electrical engineering professor Shanhui Fan made panels containing layers of silicon dioxide and hafnium oxide on top of a thin layer of silver. These radiate in a unique way: They send heat directly into space, bypassing the Earth’s atmosphere. The panels do this by emitting heat at infrared wavelengths between 8 and 13 micrometers. To these waves, the Earth’s atmosphere is transparent. What’s more, the panels reflect nearly all the sunlight falling on them. A little further research shows that the atmosphere is opaque at numerous wavelengths and it's probably safe to assume that they intentionally targeted the opaque ones: https://i.imgur.com/eUmTltm.png https://i.imgur.com/eUmTltm.png
- iRobbery 9y ago
  While i understand you both. A title is a title. And the title claims 'heat' not reflecting infrared wavelengths between 8 and 13 micrometers. And imho 'heat' is more then certain ranges of infrared wavelengths. So in that sense i can see why somebody uses the word clickbait in regards to this title. edit joke While i'm just afraid the moon will start to condensate /edit
  - kbenson 9y ago
    It's removing heat from a system by radiating it into space. That it's radiated using infrared is irrelevant, since it does cool the system it is attached to. Even "beam" is appropriate in this instance. There's no "bait" in the "click-bait", it's exactly as advertised.
    - pavement 9y ago
      Listen, a little tl;dr is not too much to ask for around here, especially when the salient point is buried 7 paragraphs in, when it should be present in the leading sentence. Forgive me for not locating the relevant passage, while quickly skimming this and 100 other articles, while at work. Furthermore, regarding cloud cover, I am dubious of the premise that even the specified wavelengths penetrate otherwise opaque cloud cover. Sure, maybe that portion of the spectrum penetrates the typical atmospheric mix, including light water vapor, on an otherwise clear day, but, color me unsurprised if it fails to penetrate smog, diesel and particulate pollution, and other common dust constituents in cloud nuclei. I mean, even radar can be blinded by dense storm clouds. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's a 100% miracle cure. Maybe it's that awesome. I hope I really am just a big dummy, too lazy to read a blurb more than three sentences long.
      - kbenson 9y ago
        > Listen, a little tl;dr is not too much to ask for around here Then ask for a summary, or point out that it's not well written for easy dissemination of facts.. There's no need to call a title out as click bait when it isn't. There's plenty of click-bait titles to go around, we don't need to malign accurate titles without cause. A click-bait title isn't just wrong or unclear, it's purpose is to intentionally mislead people for views. An accusation of click-bait is similar to an accusation of lying, which is different than being unclear or incorrect. As such it should be reserved for cases where there's evidence to back it up, otherwise discourse breaks down, in the same way accusing someone of lying when they are unclear (or you are unclear on their meaning) doesn't lead to useful discussion. You have questions regarding the veracity of the statement? Sure, figure that out, and then make a statement about how accurate it is. If you aren't part of the signal, you're part of the noise.
        pavement 9y ago
        Give your orders to someone else.
        iRobbery 9y ago
- keithlfrost 9y ago
  agreed, except that in the last sentence you mean "transparent" not "opaque" (the atmosphere must be relatively transparent at a particular wavelength to allow radiant energy to escape to space at that wavelength).
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into space Hmmm, that seems like a click-bait statement. Between the air conditioner and even low earth orbit, there's plenty of atmosphere that will soak up some of the beam's heat, no?

mikeyouse 9y ago

No offense, but did you read the article? It's directly addressed: > So Raman and electrical engineering professor Shanhui Fan made panels containing layers of silicon dioxide and hafnium oxide on top of a thin layer of silver. These radiate in a unique way: They send heat directly into space, bypassing the Earth’s atmosphere. The panels do this by emitting heat at infrared wavelengths between 8 and 13 micrometers. To these waves, the Earth’s atmosphere is transparent. What’s more, the panels reflect nearly all the sunlight falling on them. A little further research shows that the atmosphere is opaque at numerous wavelengths and it's probably safe to assume that they intentionally targeted the opaque ones: https://i.imgur.com/eUmTltm.png https://i.imgur.com/eUmTltm.png

iRobbery 9y ago
While i understand you both. A title is a title. And the title claims 'heat' not reflecting infrared wavelengths between 8 and 13 micrometers. And imho 'heat' is more then certain ranges of infrared wavelengths. So in that sense i can see why somebody uses the word clickbait in regards to this title. edit joke While i'm just afraid the moon will start to condensate /edit
- kbenson 9y ago
  It's removing heat from a system by radiating it into space. That it's radiated using infrared is irrelevant, since it does cool the system it is attached to. Even "beam" is appropriate in this instance. There's no "bait" in the "click-bait", it's exactly as advertised.
  - pavement 9y ago
    Listen, a little tl;dr is not too much to ask for around here, especially when the salient point is buried 7 paragraphs in, when it should be present in the leading sentence. Forgive me for not locating the relevant passage, while quickly skimming this and 100 other articles, while at work. Furthermore, regarding cloud cover, I am dubious of the premise that even the specified wavelengths penetrate otherwise opaque cloud cover. Sure, maybe that portion of the spectrum penetrates the typical atmospheric mix, including light water vapor, on an otherwise clear day, but, color me unsurprised if it fails to penetrate smog, diesel and particulate pollution, and other common dust constituents in cloud nuclei. I mean, even radar can be blinded by dense storm clouds. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's a 100% miracle cure. Maybe it's that awesome. I hope I really am just a big dummy, too lazy to read a blurb more than three sentences long.
    - kbenson 9y ago
      > Listen, a little tl;dr is not too much to ask for around here Then ask for a summary, or point out that it's not well written for easy dissemination of facts.. There's no need to call a title out as click bait when it isn't. There's plenty of click-bait titles to go around, we don't need to malign accurate titles without cause. A click-bait title isn't just wrong or unclear, it's purpose is to intentionally mislead people for views. An accusation of click-bait is similar to an accusation of lying, which is different than being unclear or incorrect. As such it should be reserved for cases where there's evidence to back it up, otherwise discourse breaks down, in the same way accusing someone of lying when they are unclear (or you are unclear on their meaning) doesn't lead to useful discussion. You have questions regarding the veracity of the statement? Sure, figure that out, and then make a statement about how accurate it is. If you aren't part of the signal, you're part of the noise.
      - pavement 9y ago
        Give your orders to someone else.
      - iRobbery 9y ago
keithlfrost 9y ago
agreed, except that in the last sentence you mean "transparent" not "opaque" (the atmosphere must be relatively transparent at a particular wavelength to allow radiant energy to escape to space at that wavelength).

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