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This is particularly messed up because you know poorer people will take this option so they can afford their next phone or device. It preys on lower-income indi
by ArtCreator 9y ago
This is particularly messed up because you know poorer people will take this option so they can afford their next phone or device. It preys on lower-income individuals unaware of what is going on. People who generally aren't aware of what rights are being tossed out, or may not even have the luxury to put personal rights above cost.
- interstitial 9y agoYou'd be surprised how much privacy poorer people give up in their jobs already. Most are watched all the time, with all manor of SV tech. Drug test, time clocks, GPS devices, and I'm sure SV is working hard to chip them, and do all sorts of other things to take away every ounce of privacy they have.
- flatline 9y agoTime clocks and drug tests aren't exactly SV inventions. While there are many possible distopian outcomes to a lot of tech, suppression of the working class is hardly a new problem or the fault of SV.
- pmiller2 9y agoThe key words in the GP post were not "SV."
- wlesieutre 9y agoDid we read the same comment? > I'm sure SV is working hard to chip them, and do all sorts of other things to take away every ounce of privacy they have. It's pretty clear how someone would read that as an accusation of worker suppression being SV's fault. Sure, privacy is the general topic, but the whole comment was about invading privacy with "SV tech".
- pmiller2 9y agoCross out the words SV. Does the post retain its essential meaning? Yes: tech is being used to suppress privacy. It doesn't much matter if it comes from SV, Japan, or the moon.
- wlesieutre 9y agoIt goes from being a post blaming problems on SV to a post pointing out that there are problems. I like it better with SV removed, but that's not what the post is.
- avaer 9y agoIsn't this the fundamental working of social media and advertising? Most people are not aware of, or can't afford to think about, the rights they're tossing out. So they're sold to bidders, creating billion dollar enterprises. I think one of the most insidious concepts in the modern world is "free", when multiplied by the internet.
- ma2rten 9y agoPoorer people's browsing histories are also less valuable to Verizon.
- horusthecat 9y agoTo Verizon, yes, but who said there isn't a secondary market for that information? I'm reminded of how Facebook is a net buyer of information from Oracle: there's a thriving resale market.
- shawnee_ 9y agoNot necessarily. There have been numerous studies in the banking industry, for example, that show "poor people" bank accounts are more valuable than high-wealth bank accounts due to the overdraft fees, low-to-zero interest they can get away with, etc. A lot of the biggest, easiest wealth made in America is derived from screwing over poor people at scale / en masse. I highly recommend Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich for some pretty good examples of this.
- SN76477 9y agoThis is my fear for the future that all companies will adopt a similar system. Products will only be available to the rich, unless you submit to identification practices.
- metalliqaz 9y agoWhat makes you think that poor people are unaware of what's going on? Like they must be simpletons that can't comprehend the concept of privacy? In my experience, they know how messed up the world is. They don't have a choice, but they know... and they are constantly coming up with low-tech ways to screw the man.
- stanleydrew 9y agoThe parent comment didn't claim that poor people aren't aware of what's going on. Merely that if you are poor, and you aren't aware of the privacy implications, then you are more likely to opt-in to this.