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I really don't think this is helpful or very HN like. You may hold all those opinions about him, and you may be right, but 60 million+ people voted for him, jus

I really don't think this is helpful or very HN like. You may hold all those opinions about him, and you may be right, but 60 million+ people voted for him, just like 60+ million people voted for the other puppet. It doesn't mean either of those groups is stupid. And it's important to note much of our perception is based off the particular news media we watch and they way they cut up content. If you go back to the Bush days and watch The Daily Show/Colbert make fun of him, and then watch the actual video the clips are taken from, you'd be surprised at how much the narrative changes in order to get a joke. Obama predator droned people for eight years and spent every day of his presidency at war (while winning a nobel peace prize). The rush to demonize trump often ignores that the last president didn't do anything better. He just spoke more elegantly.

saosebastiao 9y ago
I suspect you and I agree far more than we disagree on politics. There was a clear reason I opted against voting for Obama a second time, and you've already articulated half of it. I'm not worried about domestic policy...it should be pretty clear by now that Trump (like most presidents) has no real control over domestic policy. And I'm well aware of how media shapes our opinions, often intentionally. But at the expense of Godwin's law, Hitler was democratically elected, and that was still bad for the human race. At some point, popularity has to stop being an excuse for acceptability. I'm worried about the fact that we elected a bewilderingly incompetent and hotheaded abusive tyrant and put him in charge of the executive branch and the world's most overfunded military. I'm worried that he can choose judges, sign executive orders, pardon felons, control our borders. He's so so bad for our country and for our world that I've participated in a practice I regularly decry: I voted against him, for someone I would otherwise never vote for. At some point we have to say that that he is not okay, and that point should not be defined by his popularity but by simple moral reflection. I regularly laugh with pity at the imagined moral superiority of side-pickers, and yet I will choose a side here. I don't condemn people who vote party lines, and I don't condemn people that have ideological differences from me, but I also don't regret shaming and condemning people who vote for destructive evil, whether that evil comes in the form of Andrew Jackson, Adolf Hitler, Recep Erdogan, or Donald Trump. It needs to happen.

saosebastiao 9y ago

I suspect you and I agree far more than we disagree on politics. There was a clear reason I opted against voting for Obama a second time, and you've already articulated half of it. I'm not worried about domestic policy...it should be pretty clear by now that Trump (like most presidents) has no real control over domestic policy. And I'm well aware of how media shapes our opinions, often intentionally. But at the expense of Godwin's law, Hitler was democratically elected, and that was still bad for the human race. At some point, popularity has to stop being an excuse for acceptability. I'm worried about the fact that we elected a bewilderingly incompetent and hotheaded abusive tyrant and put him in charge of the executive branch and the world's most overfunded military. I'm worried that he can choose judges, sign executive orders, pardon felons, control our borders. He's so so bad for our country and for our world that I've participated in a practice I regularly decry: I voted against him, for someone I would otherwise never vote for. At some point we have to say that that he is not okay, and that point should not be defined by his popularity but by simple moral reflection. I regularly laugh with pity at the imagined moral superiority of side-pickers, and yet I will choose a side here. I don't condemn people who vote party lines, and I don't condemn people that have ideological differences from me, but I also don't regret shaming and condemning people who vote for destructive evil, whether that evil comes in the form of Andrew Jackson, Adolf Hitler, Recep Erdogan, or Donald Trump. It needs to happen.