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They're bringing drugs,' crime and are 'rapists'. knock the crap out of them …. I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees You didn't vote for Trump over th
by CalChris 9y ago
They're bringing drugs,' crime and are 'rapists'.
knock the crap out of them …. I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees
You didn't vote for Trump over the correct level of import taxes.
- rufus_2 9y agoI voted for him because he told the truth about the massive problems with drugs, crime, and rape that we have in border states as well as his willingness to defend himself and his supporters from the violent Alt Left disruptors that plague his public events.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoBut maybe you voted for him because you thought he's just purposefully saying stupid shit and none of that is serious, because you thought he won't get elected anyway, and this is a good way of expressing your disappointment with the US politics in general? Or maybe you didn't vote for, but voted against (I hear some studies say this is the primary way people vote, btw.)? Or maybe you had some other reason? I could invent plenty more. The point being, judging someone by the sole data point of their choice in the voting booth, without knowing reasons for it, is one of the most stupid kind of thinking imaginable. In fact, in less emotionally charged contexts, people generally don't show that kind of stupidity.
- CalChris 9y agojudging someone by the sole data point of their choice in the voting booth, without knowing reasons for it, is one of the most stupid kind of thinking imaginable I'd call that holding them accountable and I only know how they voted because they told me. Also, I'd put hating people for the color of their skin, the sexuality, their religion, ... as much much stupider.
- TeMPOraL 9y ago> I'd call that holding them accountable You only get to do that after you understand their reasons, which you can then judge. > and I only know how they voted because they told me It doesn't work like that. People don't generally run around, telling everyone who they voted for. It usually comes up in conversations, where the person who divulges their choice don't expect to get hated for it. > Also, I'd put hating people for the color of their skin, the sexuality, their religion, ... as much much stupider. I agree with that (maybe not with the much much part, because to me it seems to be a similar kind of stupidity; different flavours of the same bug in thinking). This doesn't invalidate my point though. People should not do either of those things.
- CalChris 9y agoActually it does work like that. Your conversation example is basically saying that even understanding your reasons that I'm supposed to give you a pass because ... because what? As for stupider, the color of your skin or your sexuality aren't choices. Whether you voted for Trump is. Holding someone accountable for their choices isn't stupid. Hating them for their race, sexuality, ... is. Your equivocation isn't getting anywhere.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoMy point is that judging a person - a sophisticated individual with complex life history and embedded in equally complex environment - by just few bits of information, is a very stupid thing to do in general. There are situations in which you have no other choice, when few bits is all you have to go on and you need to make some decision. But those situations are very rare. In a typical case, such evaluation is just irrational - few bits are not enough to describe a person in any useful way.
- CalChris 9y agoAt what point do you judge a person because your litany of examples isn't making any sense. All I'm seeing here is an attempt at equivocation.