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Seems like a lot of people are right on board with Internet-wide censorship by community standards. I'm very disappointed that so many have chosen to cast the p

by psyc 9y ago

Seems like a lot of people are right on board with Internet-wide censorship by community standards. I'm very disappointed that so many have chosen to cast the problem only in terms of bad people posting bad things. You've missed the whole point. I've conducted some research in the past into how to solve this simple problem: how to reliably host potentially offensive content, given the content is legal in the US. I concluded it's currently infeasible. All US hosts are responsive to mobs, and all hosts that market themselves as "pro free speech" are in jurisdictions with a variety of "hate speech" or "anti insult" laws. I've concluded that the only way forward is probably a P2P web. Given this is Hacker News, I wish that people wanted to talk about that sort of thing, rather than, as has happened here, bikeshedding about what those global community standards should be in our personal opinions.

idle_zealot 9y ago
I've seen a handful of p2p internet solutions pop up, but all seem immature. Is there one in particular that you have hopes for?
- psyc 9y ago
  Not really. It's a commonly proposed application for blockchains, but calling most of those immature would actually be generous. The only one I'm aware of is Substratum, but I honestly don't know whether it's a fly-by-night ICO or not.
cft 9y ago
Here we are talking about a domain registrar, not a host. Aren't there registrars that don't issue similar threats for legal content in their jurisdiction (e.g. in the US?) Would be nice to publisize a list. By the way, I am sure that large web sites like Dropbox or Twitter have actually illegal content, but their registrar obviously doesn't threaten them. PS. Curious what the reason was to downvote this?
yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
Does this include Nearly Free Speech?
- psyc 9y ago
  I do recall investigating them, but I don't recall my specific conclusions. It does appear that they're genuinely trying, and probably meet the specific bar I set in my comment. There are other bars that I fear would take this way off topic.

by psyc 9y ago

idle_zealot 9y ago

I've seen a handful of p2p internet solutions pop up, but all seem immature. Is there one in particular that you have hopes for?

psyc 9y ago
Not really. It's a commonly proposed application for blockchains, but calling most of those immature would actually be generous. The only one I'm aware of is Substratum, but I honestly don't know whether it's a fly-by-night ICO or not.

cft 9y ago

Here we are talking about a domain registrar, not a host. Aren't there registrars that don't issue similar threats for legal content in their jurisdiction (e.g. in the US?) Would be nice to publisize a list. By the way, I am sure that large web sites like Dropbox or Twitter have actually illegal content, but their registrar obviously doesn't threaten them. PS. Curious what the reason was to downvote this?

yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago

Does this include Nearly Free Speech?

psyc 9y ago
I do recall investigating them, but I don't recall my specific conclusions. It does appear that they're genuinely trying, and probably meet the specific bar I set in my comment. There are other bars that I fear would take this way off topic.