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> This is counteracted by the fact that employees now have the option of walking away from their jobs I don't see how either a UBI or a job guarantee limits em
by pjmorris 9y ago
> This is counteracted by the fact that employees now have the option of walking away from their jobs
I don't see how either a UBI or a job guarantee limits employees from walking away from their jobs. The presence of a job, or an income, hasn't stopped many people from starting their own thing.
> But either way, I think a UBI is necessary so that people have the option of working for themselves rather than being forced to answer to someone else.
The option to work for yourself isn't taken away by a jobs guarantee. I can see how the presence of a UBI would permit people to do things no one would pay for otherwise. As idyllic as I really do think that sounds, I suspect that examples of people doing things no one would pay for would be used over time by UBI opponents to drive down the value of the UBI to below a living wage.
- RealityNow 9y agoUBI doesn't limit employees from walking away from their jobs, it enables them to. > The option to work for yourself isn't taken away by a jobs guarantee. Obviously. Job guarantee programs however still don't allow you to truly walk away from your job unless you're able to financially support yourself, whereas a UBI does.
- pjmorris 9y agoYep, I misread your point, and mis-responded. A UBI that's actually enough to replace a job has the benefits you describe, at the cost of UBI times the population. A UBI that's not enough to replace a job doesn't have the benefits you describe, has the negatives I describe, and costs almost as much.