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I'm a bit skeptical of the claims he's making in his article, since he has obvious incentives as the founder of a browser company competing with Google. Judging

by neil_s 9y ago

I'm a bit skeptical of the claims he's making in his article, since he has obvious incentives as the founder of a browser company competing with Google. Judging from the amazing features listed on the webpage (bar charts of my history, wow, do not need that at all), I'm guessing his product sense might have some something to do with his companies not working out, not bigger competitors that are out to get him. Can anyone point me to links confirming his two claims: that Google services were maliciously blocking Opera for reasons other than compatibility and efficiency for a low-market-share browser, and that Google blocked his ads for spurious reasons. He doesn't really provide details on what rules he was violating, but judging from the fact that the ads were reinstated the moment he was in compliance with them, it sounds like a trumped up charge.

unityByFreedom 9y ago
> He doesn't really provide details on what rules he was violating, but judging from the fact that the ads were reinstated the moment he was in compliance with them, it sounds like a trumped up charge. I agree skepticism is warranted. This is one side of the story. Even if you have it out for Google, you should want more details before grabbing your pitchfork. Mistakenly criticizing someone only empowers them.
ocdtrekkie 9y ago
The people most likely to have complaints about a business is actually their competitors, so this logic makes it very easy to just assume your favorite company is never doing something wrong. Also, note that Vivaldi is not seeking major penetration in the market. It is "A Browser for Our Friends" specifically because it is folks that want a browser for power users like themselves, not for the everyday Chrome or Firefox folks. Clearly, you don't know how you harass someone effectively. Break things, and apologize quickly and fix it immediately when they ask about it. (Malicious IT people can do this too!) "Oops, no idea what happened there, sorry, we'll fix it." Accidents happen and all...
- cromwellian 9y ago
  And clearly you don't know what you're talking about and are just making slanderous speculation. Engineers at Google have better things to do with their time than sit around trying to dream up ways to screw up the health of their code base for harassment purposes. Is that what people do at your company? Sabotage code for political purposes? Maybe it's time to change jobs.

by neil_s 9y ago

unityByFreedom 9y ago

> He doesn't really provide details on what rules he was violating, but judging from the fact that the ads were reinstated the moment he was in compliance with them, it sounds like a trumped up charge. I agree skepticism is warranted. This is one side of the story. Even if you have it out for Google, you should want more details before grabbing your pitchfork. Mistakenly criticizing someone only empowers them.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago

The people most likely to have complaints about a business is actually their competitors, so this logic makes it very easy to just assume your favorite company is never doing something wrong. Also, note that Vivaldi is not seeking major penetration in the market. It is "A Browser for Our Friends" specifically because it is folks that want a browser for power users like themselves, not for the everyday Chrome or Firefox folks. Clearly, you don't know how you harass someone effectively. Break things, and apologize quickly and fix it immediately when they ask about it. (Malicious IT people can do this too!) "Oops, no idea what happened there, sorry, we'll fix it." Accidents happen and all...

cromwellian 9y ago
And clearly you don't know what you're talking about and are just making slanderous speculation. Engineers at Google have better things to do with their time than sit around trying to dream up ways to screw up the health of their code base for harassment purposes. Is that what people do at your company? Sabotage code for political purposes? Maybe it's time to change jobs.