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Bioaccumulation is a serious thing. I suspect increase of plastic in fish might be related to the reduction in sperm count in men.[0][1] [0] https://www.scient
by dev_throw 9y ago
Bioaccumulation is a serious thing. I suspect increase of plastic in fish might be related to the reduction in sperm count in men.[0][1]
[0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bpa-semen-quality/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bpa-semen-quality...
[1] http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/10/a-story-about-fish-plastic-debris-and-sex/ http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/10/a-story-about-fish-plasti...
- acdanger 9y agoYou have a trailing * leading to a 404 on the second citation. Try this: http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/10/a-story-about-fish-plastic-debris-and-sex/ http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/10/a-story-about-fish-plasti...
- dev_throw 9y agoThanks, I was having trouble with italicizing things :)
- cropsieboss 9y agoDo people really eat that much fish? I thought fish is mostly raised as fishmeal for cows. Making an even worse bioaccumulation chain.
- victornomad 9y agoyes, people do. Not all the countries are pure meat eaters...
- Practicality 9y agoYou know that fish is a type of meat, right?
- Symmetry 9y agoLots of cultures don't class fish in with most meats. In traditional Catholicism the rule against meat on Fridays didn't apply to fish and likewise with Japanese Buddhist rules against meat eating. It's sort of like how most people consider tomatoes to be vegetables even though they aren't, scientifically. Yeah, in 21st century English fish is a meat but it's non-centrally meat so the meaning is clear when you apply Gricean norms.
- Shikadi 9y agoWoah woah woah, hold up there. Scientifically speaking, a vegetable is the edible part of a plant. Tomatos are vegetables and fruits scientifically. This is like arguing that a square isn't a rectangle! Okay, carry on <3
- hnzix 9y ago> In traditional Catholicism the rule against meat on Fridays didn't apply to fish Beaver meat is also a-ok! https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-...
- taneq 9y agoLikewise chicken is often not considered 'meat' despite clearly being the flesh of an animal. It's kind of weird, but not as weird as the people who think "a little bit of ham" in a salad doesn't count as meat.
- gizmo686 9y agoJudism also doesn't consider fish meat for the purposes of Kosher-ness.
- brepl 9y ago> Yeah, in 21st century English fish is a meat Having spent the best part of the last 17 years speaking 21st century English, this is a surprisingly strong assertion to me. From http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/115517 http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/115517: > The flesh of animals used as food, esp. excluding fish...
- gnaritas 9y ago> Not all the countries are pure meat eaters... lmao... fish is meat.
- victornomad 9y agowell, I should have said "animal flesh". In my mother tongue (Spanish) fish (pescado) is different than meat (carne).
- gnaritas 9y agoSounds like a bug in Spanish (chill, I'm Spanish). However, fish is also animal flesh so that wouldn't have made the statement any better. Fish are animals. Fish muscles are meat in the same way any other meat is meat. Downvoted for facts, gotta love it.
- jwilk 9y agoFrom the HN guidelines: Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
- King-Aaron 9y agoI am honestly stunned by this comment.
- PerfectElement 9y agoEating lower in the food chain is a practical and accessible solution.
- HillaryBriss 9y agoyeah. that's certainly been the approach for reducing exposure to mercury. but, with plastics, i wonder how significant the exposure reduction is for, say, consuming sardines, given that the plastic particles themselves may be mistaken for plankton. in other words, what percentage of a low food chain fish's or mollusk's diet is pure plastic?
- CuriouslyC 9y agoLean meats are also preferable to fatty, and animals that grow fast are preferable those that grow slowly. Pigs and chickens are fairly safe, and perfectly ethical if you source responsibly.
- mjevans 9y ago'farmed' fish might also be a good option while we (as a species) work out our waste issues.
- kharms 9y agoPer capita fish consumption is not radically different between East Asian and Europe/USA [0], while sperm count is. https://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/fus/fus99/per_capita99.pdf https://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/fus/fus99/per_capita99.pdf