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I'm assuming NZ didn't sign a free trade agreement with the US like Australia (the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and ove

I'm assuming NZ didn't sign a free trade agreement with the US like Australia (the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law).

chrismsnz 16y ago
We haven't signed one yet, AFAIK. There's been lots of rumbling about it when one of our honchos visits USA's honchos, but the application of the US Intellectual Property laws is one of the big problems I have with it.
- brianwillis 16y ago
  Every New Zealand Prime Minister wants to be the one to score an FTA deal with the Americans. Helen Clark worked hard for the chance. John Key will no doubt work just as hard. I think it's unlikely to happen any time soon. Barack Obama needs to get re-elected. To do that he needs the Iowa caucuses. He's not going to help out New Zealand farmers at the cost of the support of American farmers.
  - necubi 16y ago
    You're actually misinformed about American electoral politics. The Iowa caucuses (and caucuses in general) are only involved at the primary level (i.e., they select which candidate will get to run for each party). Since Obama is a sitting president, it would be highly unusual for anybody to even run against him for the Democratic nomination, let alone have any chance at getting it.
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pmccool 16y ago
> the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law). Can you elaborate on this? I understood treaties to have no legal force in Australia until domestic laws were passed to give them force. I know there are exceptions to this rule (like Teoh) but AFAIK they don't involve overriding domestic law
- AlexBlom 16y ago
  They don't. The commenter made a huge generalization.
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nl 16y ago
the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law Where on earth did you get that? Yes, the free trade agreement has affected Australian copyright in some limited cases, but it nothing like as clear cut as you make out there. As a random example, the book 1984 is out of copyright in Australia, but will remain in copyright in the US until 2044: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#cite_ref-12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#cite_ref-1...

I'm assuming NZ didn't sign a free trade agreement with the US like Australia (the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law).

chrismsnz 16y ago

We haven't signed one yet, AFAIK. There's been lots of rumbling about it when one of our honchos visits USA's honchos, but the application of the US Intellectual Property laws is one of the big problems I have with it.

brianwillis 16y ago
Every New Zealand Prime Minister wants to be the one to score an FTA deal with the Americans. Helen Clark worked hard for the chance. John Key will no doubt work just as hard. I think it's unlikely to happen any time soon. Barack Obama needs to get re-elected. To do that he needs the Iowa caucuses. He's not going to help out New Zealand farmers at the cost of the support of American farmers.
- necubi 16y ago
  You're actually misinformed about American electoral politics. The Iowa caucuses (and caucuses in general) are only involved at the primary level (i.e., they select which candidate will get to run for each party). Since Obama is a sitting president, it would be highly unusual for anybody to even run against him for the Democratic nomination, let alone have any chance at getting it.
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pmccool 16y ago

> the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law). Can you elaborate on this? I understood treaties to have no legal force in Australia until domestic laws were passed to give them force. I know there are exceptions to this rule (like Teoh) but AFAIK they don't involve overriding domestic law

AlexBlom 16y ago
They don't. The commenter made a huge generalization.
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nl 16y ago

the US-Australia free trade agreement ensures US copyright law applies to and overrides Australian copyright law Where on earth did you get that? Yes, the free trade agreement has affected Australian copyright in some limited cases, but it nothing like as clear cut as you make out there. As a random example, the book 1984 is out of copyright in Australia, but will remain in copyright in the US until 2044: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#cite_ref-12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#cite_ref-1...