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I agree with that (though things are slowly getting better in Europe), but then why average Joe from USA is OK with government subsidizing Europe with his tax m

by kbart 9y ago

I agree with that (though things are slowly getting better in Europe), but then why average Joe from USA is OK with government subsidizing Europe with his tax money, but freaks out on the idea of paying for his own healthcare from the same tax money?

dalacv 9y ago
Because the average joe can't afford to pay any more in taxes. If only Europe would build up their own military, and help out a little.
chimeracoder 9y ago
> why average Joe from USA is OK with government subsidizing Europe with his tax money Where do you get the idea that "average Joe" is okay with that? It's been a huge talking point for Trump and his supporters for the past two years.
- ZeroGravitas 9y ago
  Also, the majority of American's are actually in favor of having some kind of sane medical system, like other first world countries. That's well supported by polling (though interestingly they don't like "Obamacare" but do like all the policies that make up the Affordable Care Act) This was also a talking point for Trump and his supporters for the past two years. ("we're going to have insurance for everyone", "No cuts to medicaid", "No one will lose coverage", "Nobody will be worse off financially", "I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.") Of course, in that case as well, he took them for the rubes they are and likely had no plan for delivering on his promises.
Noos 9y ago
Government programs can be victim to massive amounts of fraud and waste, as well as put people through a lot of hoops in order to gain the same benefits or less you had before. It has no real pressure day to day to do well, and is very slow in accepting innovations or changes. We simply don't trust government to provide good service overall. And a lot of experiences tend to come from this; trying to get a local government to do anything to benefit a community is like pulling teeth. We'll be in the middle of economic decline, and they'll be repurposing land into dog parks.

by kbart 9y ago

dalacv 9y ago

Because the average joe can't afford to pay any more in taxes. If only Europe would build up their own military, and help out a little.

chimeracoder 9y ago

> why average Joe from USA is OK with government subsidizing Europe with his tax money Where do you get the idea that "average Joe" is okay with that? It's been a huge talking point for Trump and his supporters for the past two years.

ZeroGravitas 9y ago
Also, the majority of American's are actually in favor of having some kind of sane medical system, like other first world countries. That's well supported by polling (though interestingly they don't like "Obamacare" but do like all the policies that make up the Affordable Care Act) This was also a talking point for Trump and his supporters for the past two years. ("we're going to have insurance for everyone", "No cuts to medicaid", "No one will lose coverage", "Nobody will be worse off financially", "I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.") Of course, in that case as well, he took them for the rubes they are and likely had no plan for delivering on his promises.

Noos 9y ago

Government programs can be victim to massive amounts of fraud and waste, as well as put people through a lot of hoops in order to gain the same benefits or less you had before. It has no real pressure day to day to do well, and is very slow in accepting innovations or changes. We simply don't trust government to provide good service overall. And a lot of experiences tend to come from this; trying to get a local government to do anything to benefit a community is like pulling teeth. We'll be in the middle of economic decline, and they'll be repurposing land into dog parks.