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FTA:"193 of the world's governments share a goal to achieve universal health coverage by 2030." What does this mean? Aren't governments always paying lip servic

FTA:"193 of the world's governments share a goal to achieve universal health coverage by 2030." What does this mean? Aren't governments always paying lip service to some form of "universal coverage"? Isn't that one of the goals of any good government?

stevenwoo 9y ago
It has never been the stated goal of the USA government and is not the goal of the party in power now, in the Obamacare repeal process they have repeatedly argued that letting people choose how much or how much not to pay (either no insurance or emergency only type healthplans that are not available in most healthcare markets now) and to whom to pay for healthcare is more important, if one is not wealthy enough to pay, their argument is one needs to get more money. The GOP was in favor of Obamacare when Mitt Romney implemented it as governor and when it was initially proposed by a conservative thinktank.
- ams6110 9y ago
  > if one is not wealthy enough to pay, their argument is one needs to get more money Please cite the proposal introduced by any conservative senator or congressman that contains this argument.
  - ghostly_s 9y ago
    Is this argument not implicit in any plan which precludes coverage for the insufficiently wealthy? Several of which the GOP has proposed in the past months?
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  - stevenwoo 9y ago
    The most famous example from memory is the congressman who said people need to stop buying iphones so they can buy insurance instead. As if one - two months of insurance is more than a temporary salve. http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/jason-chaffetz-invest-in-healthcare-instead-of-phones-sot-newday.cnn http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/jason-chaffetz... The other famous quote is people will choose to not buy insurance because it's not important enough. https://www.yahoo.com/news/gops-cornyn-defends-americans-freedom-skip-health-insurance-165433159.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/gops-cornyn-defends-americans-fre... If I had time to watch CSPAN I could probably come up with an example from every GOP congressman/White House spokesman/conservative think tank to match these with video, since they all use the same talking points they use in public for the Obamacare repeal. I guess you could interpret what they are saying to not mean what I think they mean.
  - learc83 9y ago
    When asked about coverage for a constituent's son who works in retail, Rep. Warren Davidson responded “OK, I don’t know anything about your son, but as you described him, his skills are focused in an industry that doesn’t have the kind of options that you want him to have for health care. So, I don’t believe that these taxpayers here are entitled to give that to him. I believe he’s got the opportunity to go earn those health benefits,”

stevenwoo 9y ago

It has never been the stated goal of the USA government and is not the goal of the party in power now, in the Obamacare repeal process they have repeatedly argued that letting people choose how much or how much not to pay (either no insurance or emergency only type healthplans that are not available in most healthcare markets now) and to whom to pay for healthcare is more important, if one is not wealthy enough to pay, their argument is one needs to get more money. The GOP was in favor of Obamacare when Mitt Romney implemented it as governor and when it was initially proposed by a conservative thinktank.

ams6110 9y ago
> if one is not wealthy enough to pay, their argument is one needs to get more money Please cite the proposal introduced by any conservative senator or congressman that contains this argument.
- ghostly_s 9y ago
  Is this argument not implicit in any plan which precludes coverage for the insufficiently wealthy? Several of which the GOP has proposed in the past months?
- deleted 9y ago
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- stevenwoo 9y ago
  The most famous example from memory is the congressman who said people need to stop buying iphones so they can buy insurance instead. As if one - two months of insurance is more than a temporary salve. http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/jason-chaffetz-invest-in-healthcare-instead-of-phones-sot-newday.cnn http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/jason-chaffetz... The other famous quote is people will choose to not buy insurance because it's not important enough. https://www.yahoo.com/news/gops-cornyn-defends-americans-freedom-skip-health-insurance-165433159.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/gops-cornyn-defends-americans-fre... If I had time to watch CSPAN I could probably come up with an example from every GOP congressman/White House spokesman/conservative think tank to match these with video, since they all use the same talking points they use in public for the Obamacare repeal. I guess you could interpret what they are saying to not mean what I think they mean.
- learc83 9y ago
  When asked about coverage for a constituent's son who works in retail, Rep. Warren Davidson responded “OK, I don’t know anything about your son, but as you described him, his skills are focused in an industry that doesn’t have the kind of options that you want him to have for health care. So, I don’t believe that these taxpayers here are entitled to give that to him. I believe he’s got the opportunity to go earn those health benefits,”