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I really tried with Polymer (for the last few months) but it was particularly verbose. I remember implementing an "<iron-ajax>" tag, and thinking that this is

I really tried with Polymer (for the last few months) but it was particularly verbose. I remember implementing an "<iron-ajax>" tag, and thinking that this is so wild and "Out There" that I may simply never understand. Annoyingly, there is a whole "Hybrid" mode as well. So there is no distinction between V1 and V2. If you are confused,you go to the docs, they aren't giving you what you need, so you go to one of the sample elements, and it is written in V1. So you have to read the migration guide to translate what is actually happening.... Then Polymer Summit happens, and now it is all JS based which, is far better for me but now it seems pointless to stay on Polymer 2.0, and Polymer 3 is a preview with no docs... So I aborted this path, went to Angular and to be honest, it is beautiful. It is almost trivial compared to the bag of questions and confusion I had going on with Polymer. I do look forward to going back there though when 3.0 is available.

chenster 9y ago
Angular is a front-end framework for general purpose. Polymer is the library specifically to facilitate Web Component development only. So I think you are comparing apple and orange here.
- mlsarecmg 9y ago
  Both are basic front end frameworks. Polymer just happens to use a minor spec to encapsulate and expose, the smallest part of what it actually does. Polymer of all the frameworks i've had to use has had the most breaking changes. That they're turning the ship for each and every major forcing you to rewrite the entire application is kind of ironic given that their motto is "use the platform" as if suggesting stability and standard behavior. Polymer is not the standard, just another arbitrary driver (as in: their own syntax, their own structures, their own api) for a pretty harmless spec that sets out to solve issues we haven't faced for at least 5 years.
  - chenster 9y ago
    Big corps like Google tend to over-engineer stuff. It's the very reason why Vue.js is so kicking ass due to its low learning curse and progressive approach. Why can't we do the same for WC standards?
    - wiredearp 9y ago
      It's not like Vue has been implemented in Angular. All the ass-kicking frameworks are built on W3C standards.
    - mlsarecmg 9y ago
      I think the problem is more or less that we're at a breaking point where it's getting quite obvious that we should move away from higher-up standards. The browser should worry about low-level interfaces only, high level abstractions should never be cast in any standard and that is exactly what the extensible web manifesto said. WC break this in half again and all of the sudden they're again trying to shovel more UI stuff into the dom. What they're trying to fix hasn't been a problem for years. Their entire spec was thought out in a meeting room maybe 10 years ago, but almost nothing of it has relevance today. It would simply make it harder again and block applications from leaving the browser behind.
tiglionabbit 9y ago
Angular v1 or v2 though? :P
- Fifer82 9y ago
  4 :P
stevedonovan 9y ago
For my sins, I look after a Polymer 0.8 based site left to me by a Chrome enthusiast. It is starting to break in mysterious ways. Not looking forward to the upgrade path...

chenster 9y ago

Angular is a front-end framework for general purpose. Polymer is the library specifically to facilitate Web Component development only. So I think you are comparing apple and orange here.

mlsarecmg 9y ago
Both are basic front end frameworks. Polymer just happens to use a minor spec to encapsulate and expose, the smallest part of what it actually does. Polymer of all the frameworks i've had to use has had the most breaking changes. That they're turning the ship for each and every major forcing you to rewrite the entire application is kind of ironic given that their motto is "use the platform" as if suggesting stability and standard behavior. Polymer is not the standard, just another arbitrary driver (as in: their own syntax, their own structures, their own api) for a pretty harmless spec that sets out to solve issues we haven't faced for at least 5 years.
- chenster 9y ago
  Big corps like Google tend to over-engineer stuff. It's the very reason why Vue.js is so kicking ass due to its low learning curse and progressive approach. Why can't we do the same for WC standards?
  - wiredearp 9y ago
    It's not like Vue has been implemented in Angular. All the ass-kicking frameworks are built on W3C standards.
  - mlsarecmg 9y ago
    I think the problem is more or less that we're at a breaking point where it's getting quite obvious that we should move away from higher-up standards. The browser should worry about low-level interfaces only, high level abstractions should never be cast in any standard and that is exactly what the extensible web manifesto said. WC break this in half again and all of the sudden they're again trying to shovel more UI stuff into the dom. What they're trying to fix hasn't been a problem for years. Their entire spec was thought out in a meeting room maybe 10 years ago, but almost nothing of it has relevance today. It would simply make it harder again and block applications from leaving the browser behind.

tiglionabbit 9y ago

Angular v1 or v2 though? :P

Fifer82 9y ago
4 :P

stevedonovan 9y ago

For my sins, I look after a Polymer 0.8 based site left to me by a Chrome enthusiast. It is starting to break in mysterious ways. Not looking forward to the upgrade path...