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I got the chance to talk to Gosling at a discussion about adding closures to Java a while back. You could tell immediately that he was an amazing and incredibly

by gleenn 9y ago

I got the chance to talk to Gosling at a discussion about adding closures to Java a while back. You could tell immediately that he was an amazing and incredibly friendly guy. I have a ton of respect for him. That being said, this is a really boring article. If there was anything meaty, he said he couldn't really say. The rest of it is that Oracle didn't pay him well and effectively demoted him. I feel like that is really unsurprising given Oracle's stance with Java and Sun stuff. They bought it strategically, not because they liked Java. Same for them with MySQL. They don't care, it's just another line item on their corporate acquisitions. The fact that they aren't taking the people they acquired seriously, even a fantastic guy like Gosling, is just another day at a mega corp. Edit - grammar.

christophilus 9y ago
This has been my anecdotal experience with just about everyone I've ever known who works at or encourages use of Oracle. They just didn't seem to care about technology. They remind me of the handful of CS classmates I had at university who were only in the program because of high-salaried jobs in the industry... Needless to say, they didn't thrive.
hota_mazi 9y ago
While it's pretty clear that Oracle acquired Sun in the hope of suing Google, it's also obvious to anyone who's been following the industry that Oracle has been doing an excellent job with Java. When Oracle acquired Sun, Java had been stagnating without seeing any major version for five years. In the four years following the acquisition, Oracle released two major versions of Java, including some very long awaited (and tricky to implement) features.
- jaimex2 9y ago
  Features which were in the pipeline already from Sun days.
  - hota_mazi 9y ago
    It's easy to have a pipeline, what's hard is actually doing the work. Sun completely dropped the ball on Java in the last five years of its existence.

by gleenn 9y ago

christophilus 9y ago

This has been my anecdotal experience with just about everyone I've ever known who works at or encourages use of Oracle. They just didn't seem to care about technology. They remind me of the handful of CS classmates I had at university who were only in the program because of high-salaried jobs in the industry... Needless to say, they didn't thrive.

hota_mazi 9y ago

While it's pretty clear that Oracle acquired Sun in the hope of suing Google, it's also obvious to anyone who's been following the industry that Oracle has been doing an excellent job with Java. When Oracle acquired Sun, Java had been stagnating without seeing any major version for five years. In the four years following the acquisition, Oracle released two major versions of Java, including some very long awaited (and tricky to implement) features.

jaimex2 9y ago
Features which were in the pipeline already from Sun days.
- hota_mazi 9y ago
  It's easy to have a pipeline, what's hard is actually doing the work. Sun completely dropped the ball on Java in the last five years of its existence.