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You don't want to get involved with complex configuration and programming. Developers and administrators could easily write I put files in node-farmer. Where as

You don't want to get involved with complex configuration and programming. Developers and administrators could easily write I put files in node-farmer. Where as in other automation tool it's a nightmare. For example Ansible, you need to write your inputs in YAML programming language, isn't that easy to learn a programming language to do the work ? Everyone is not skilled in programming.

disizjay 9y ago
It's a concept for not getting involved in to programming and complexity for devops automation. It's a working prototype and contributors welcome to shape it well for future.
dozzie 9y ago
> You don't want to get involved with complex configuration and programming. I don't? Why do you think so? And what is this "complex configuration and programming" you're talking about? > Developers and administrators could easily write I put files in node-farmer. Where as in other automation tool it's a nightmare. Uhm... what? What is nightmare? > For example Ansible, you need to write your inputs in YAML programming language, YAML is not a programming language. > isn't that easy to learn a programming language to do the work ? Yes, it is that easy to learn another programming language to do the work. Programmers and sysadmins do that constantly. > Everyone is not skilled in programming. Well, I don't want people unskilled in programming to write programs to manage environment I operate in.
- disizjay 9y ago
  My bad, YAML is a data serialization language for programming language. Complex configuration mean writing recipes in chef world, writing playbooks in Ansible, you often run into indentation issues or configuration issues. In my opinion I thought to overcome something like this you need to be dumb sometimes. You would like to learn all the programming languages or any new that may come in future but not everyone. You don't wanna be too much skilled or learned to do automation. You can spend that time somewhere else maybe networking or security or architecture.
  - disizjay 9y ago
    Rather spending time on showing your programming skills and technical skills to write a configuration file, spend that time elsewhere.
- disizjay 9y ago
  Well, I don't want people unskilled in programming to write programs to manage environment I operate in. >You maybe skilled, you may need skilled people only in your env, that's your choice and yours only. Not everyone make same choices. My whole point is, you don't have to be a very skilled person to do the automation. If you wanna spend all your time to prove yourself to be a skilled person in automation that's your choice.
  - dozzie 9y ago
    But yes, of course: I make the choices of not working with incompetent idiots and not being one. You're free to choose differently. By the way, get some English language course before any more Node.js classes. Your language level really shows.

disizjay 9y ago

It's a concept for not getting involved in to programming and complexity for devops automation. It's a working prototype and contributors welcome to shape it well for future.

dozzie 9y ago

> You don't want to get involved with complex configuration and programming. I don't? Why do you think so? And what is this "complex configuration and programming" you're talking about? > Developers and administrators could easily write I put files in node-farmer. Where as in other automation tool it's a nightmare. Uhm... what? What is nightmare? > For example Ansible, you need to write your inputs in YAML programming language, YAML is not a programming language. > isn't that easy to learn a programming language to do the work ? Yes, it is that easy to learn another programming language to do the work. Programmers and sysadmins do that constantly. > Everyone is not skilled in programming. Well, I don't want people unskilled in programming to write programs to manage environment I operate in.

disizjay 9y ago
My bad, YAML is a data serialization language for programming language. Complex configuration mean writing recipes in chef world, writing playbooks in Ansible, you often run into indentation issues or configuration issues. In my opinion I thought to overcome something like this you need to be dumb sometimes. You would like to learn all the programming languages or any new that may come in future but not everyone. You don't wanna be too much skilled or learned to do automation. You can spend that time somewhere else maybe networking or security or architecture.
- disizjay 9y ago
  Rather spending time on showing your programming skills and technical skills to write a configuration file, spend that time elsewhere.
disizjay 9y ago
Well, I don't want people unskilled in programming to write programs to manage environment I operate in. >You maybe skilled, you may need skilled people only in your env, that's your choice and yours only. Not everyone make same choices. My whole point is, you don't have to be a very skilled person to do the automation. If you wanna spend all your time to prove yourself to be a skilled person in automation that's your choice.
- dozzie 9y ago
  But yes, of course: I make the choices of not working with incompetent idiots and not being one. You're free to choose differently. By the way, get some English language course before any more Node.js classes. Your language level really shows.