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I don't know; this is observational rather than prescriptive. "Don't be institutionally hypocritical as a society" is inviting, but has problems whichever of th

I don't know; this is observational rather than prescriptive. "Don't be institutionally hypocritical as a society" is inviting, but has problems whichever of the views is chosen. The sociopaths seem necessary so long as geopolitics is simply gang warfare on a global scale.

icebraining 9y ago
What about teaching everyone non-sociopathic realpolitik instead?
- Retric 9y ago
  Likely to reduce overall efficiency.
- gasof 9y ago
  Seems like a great idea. I'd love to have been educated re: the importance of history, and the following topics: the lead-up to WW2, Communist Russia, the formation of Israel, the formation of the EU, NATO, and UN, the world banking system, the last 100 years of Middle-Eastern conflict and perhaps the American Civil War. I now consider these some of the most relevant historical events to the current Dutch political situation and also to most other Western countries, but I never learnt about them in high school (which is from 12-18 here, I did the variant that prepars you for university). What we need to achieve that is a realization in the counter-culture that education is important and that what people considered counter-culture in the 70's, 80's and 90's has been coopted by now, or perhaps has been "controlled opposition" from the start. Conservatism and protecting the people of your country from international realpolitik is the real counter-culture now. I think Switzerland and Poland got a lot of this right.
- wolfgke 9y ago
  > What about teaching everyone non-sociopathic realpolitik instead? Teaching about an oxymoron?
  - icebraining 9y ago
    It's not an oxymoron, it's in fact the definition of realpolitik, as coined by Ludwig von Rochau. It means having a principled position, while viewing the world as it is, without silly idealisms like the aforementioned just-world fallacy. The view of realpolitik as just a name for gaining power at any cost came later, and it's more prevalent in the English world. I can recommend John Bew's Realpolitik: A History, it's quite interesting if one enjoys the history of political thought.
ianai 9y ago
Identify that the only acceptable way to treat a human is as an end to her/himself and anyone who does not acts immorally.

icebraining 9y ago

What about teaching everyone non-sociopathic realpolitik instead?

Retric 9y ago
Likely to reduce overall efficiency.
gasof 9y ago
Seems like a great idea. I'd love to have been educated re: the importance of history, and the following topics: the lead-up to WW2, Communist Russia, the formation of Israel, the formation of the EU, NATO, and UN, the world banking system, the last 100 years of Middle-Eastern conflict and perhaps the American Civil War. I now consider these some of the most relevant historical events to the current Dutch political situation and also to most other Western countries, but I never learnt about them in high school (which is from 12-18 here, I did the variant that prepars you for university). What we need to achieve that is a realization in the counter-culture that education is important and that what people considered counter-culture in the 70's, 80's and 90's has been coopted by now, or perhaps has been "controlled opposition" from the start. Conservatism and protecting the people of your country from international realpolitik is the real counter-culture now. I think Switzerland and Poland got a lot of this right.
wolfgke 9y ago
> What about teaching everyone non-sociopathic realpolitik instead? Teaching about an oxymoron?
- icebraining 9y ago
  It's not an oxymoron, it's in fact the definition of realpolitik, as coined by Ludwig von Rochau. It means having a principled position, while viewing the world as it is, without silly idealisms like the aforementioned just-world fallacy. The view of realpolitik as just a name for gaining power at any cost came later, and it's more prevalent in the English world. I can recommend John Bew's Realpolitik: A History, it's quite interesting if one enjoys the history of political thought.

ianai 9y ago

Identify that the only acceptable way to treat a human is as an end to her/himself and anyone who does not acts immorally.