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So many things... > They need someone to build something solid that works. That takes more than "slinging some code" around. Enough that it would qualify as n

So many things... > They need someone to build something solid that works. That takes more than "slinging some code" around. Enough that it would qualify as not "blue-collar"... And costs more than most might think... > a simple 2D game Pretty sure that's an oxymoron.

michaelchisari 9y ago
> That takes more than "slinging some code" around. Enough that it would qualify as not "blue-collar"... No, it requires solid craftsmanship using tools and methods that are well-established. You may want to check out a woodworking conference and see if you feel the same way about skilled blue collar work afterwards. > Pretty sure that's an oxymoron. I've built 2D games in a weekend, they're as difficult as you want them to be. If a company wants to build a simple promotional web game using Phaser.js, that's a pretty straight-forward task.
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mto 9y ago
Yeah but small companies hired the 17 year old neighbor kid to write them some access/visual basic tool or a simple website ever since... And the world's still standing ;). Much of the crap I wrote 20 years back when I was in the position of the neighbor kid is even still up and running...
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xxxdarrenxxx 9y ago
Is Trump the most eloquent politician. Is bieber a musical genius ala Bach. Is mcdonalds fine dining. Not a single field that ever was has amicable correlation in regards to position to talent or knowledge. Yet the ones mentioned own their fields. Likewise it hasn't totally fucked up society either. We will deal with it and compensate where we can. This might even be human nature or the natural evolution off things. As a coder one must see that it's statistically highly unlikely that after millennia of society turning out this way, now is going to be the nexus point in time where we find our figurative salvation. If one cannot take this into account, one should perhaps evaluate their own critical thinking skills.

michaelchisari 9y ago

> That takes more than "slinging some code" around. Enough that it would qualify as not "blue-collar"... No, it requires solid craftsmanship using tools and methods that are well-established. You may want to check out a woodworking conference and see if you feel the same way about skilled blue collar work afterwards. > Pretty sure that's an oxymoron. I've built 2D games in a weekend, they're as difficult as you want them to be. If a company wants to build a simple promotional web game using Phaser.js, that's a pretty straight-forward task.

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mto 9y ago

Yeah but small companies hired the 17 year old neighbor kid to write them some access/visual basic tool or a simple website ever since... And the world's still standing ;). Much of the crap I wrote 20 years back when I was in the position of the neighbor kid is even still up and running...

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xxxdarrenxxx 9y ago

Is Trump the most eloquent politician. Is bieber a musical genius ala Bach. Is mcdonalds fine dining. Not a single field that ever was has amicable correlation in regards to position to talent or knowledge. Yet the ones mentioned own their fields. Likewise it hasn't totally fucked up society either. We will deal with it and compensate where we can. This might even be human nature or the natural evolution off things. As a coder one must see that it's statistically highly unlikely that after millennia of society turning out this way, now is going to be the nexus point in time where we find our figurative salvation. If one cannot take this into account, one should perhaps evaluate their own critical thinking skills.