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The frameworks can abstract away much of the math. You won't have to actually take the derivatives yourself, but understanding how they work actually matters to
by TimPC 9y ago
The frameworks can abstract away much of the math. You won't have to actually take the derivatives yourself, but understanding how they work actually matters to network design. It's much harder to get meaningful insights out of papers for designing better networks if you can't read the math in them. And Neural Networks is an area where you will read research papers as part of your job in order to do it well, even in industry. When is RELU better than sigmoid? When should you use a bottleneck layer? When do you want fewer larger layers or more smaller layers? When is it appropriate to add some manual features in your problem? Or even when you get an error message back from your framework when is the error in your network code an when is it in your data design? It's very hard to develop good answers to the questions that come up if you don't have the math to read papers, don't have the math to double check expressions in the error code, or have problems going back and forth between expressions with Matrix and vectors and expressions in summation notation. There are a lot of people who can build a neural network when the architecture is done for them and nothing errors (using no math or stats), but training someone to make decisions on the architecture and handle the errors IS the job.
- throwawayjava 9y agoYeah, this is how statistics is taught in a lot of psych departments. A bunch of tests and rules of thumb about when to use which equations, together with some training on a piece of software. IMO the "pragmatic rules-of-thumb" approach to teaching/understanding statistics is probably the genesis point of the reproducability crisis. This mindset toward stats has probably done more damage to Psychology than anything else in the history of the field. So, proceed with caution.
- eli_gottlieb 9y ago>IMO the "pragmatic rules-of-thumb" approach to teaching/understanding statistics is probably the genesis point of the reproducability crisis. This mindset toward stats has probably done more damage to Psychology than anything else in the history of the field. Sure, but then we have another problem: if you need to know measure theory to run an experiment, nobody will run experiments. And lots of mathematical statistics just goes ahead and uses the measure theory.
- throwawayjava 9y agoThere's a middle-ground, though.