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The accused crime is heinous and there is some evidence against him stated in the article but common, an indefinite jail sentence with no conviction? Then peop

The accused crime is heinous and there is some evidence against him stated in the article but common, an indefinite jail sentence with no conviction? Then people wonder why the country elects Trump to shake things up. This guy should stand trial or be let go.

eternauta3k 9y ago
Forgetting a password can lead to life in prison. Reasonable.
- JorgeGT 9y ago
  Such a nice threatening tool too: - We just "found" this encrypted drive in your apartment. Too bad you don't "remember" the password uh? The judge won't like it!
- sjy 9y ago
  The judge in this case found that he was able to decrypt the hard drive but chose not to.
  - mythrwy 9y ago
    I don't see how that would be possible to actually "find" short of him unlocking the drive. More like "the judge thinks". Which, we shouldn't be incarcerating people indefinitely for IMOP.
watwut 9y ago
Trump quite explicitely promised to double on police and prosecutor power. If what you want is better protection for accused, Trump is last person you should vote for.
- sametmax 9y ago
  He is probably not voting trump, only stating than when things go nuts, people do nutty things.
- lagadu 9y ago
  I think the argument is that the system already allowed for this before Trump so it's only natural that people angry at a system will vote towards who they perceive to be as far away from it as possible and Trump definitely hits the mark there, compared to the competition.
  - watwut 9y ago
    Trump may be far away from system, but he boasted about supporting tough policies and whatever cops do repeatedly. Claiming that this is why people go for Trump is like claiming they vote him cause they want more benevolent pro-immigrant policies. This is literally approach pro-Trump voters want. They complaint is that system became weak and does not do power play like this often enough.
mcny 9y ago
Absolutely but I'll go further. Having something in your hard drive or book or whatever should never be a crime in itself. I mean in India it is a crime to carry an authentic map of India with you. What harm does the contents of an encrypted disk do to society? It is not like he was going out and trying to legalize child abuse. If the person was involved in child abuse, we must try to convict him absolutely but we should be able to do that without what's on the hard disk. Oh and while I have your attention I'd like the reader to look up something unrelated but still very important. Look up cfaa. If you're in the us, please help repeal it!
- JohnBooty 9y ago
  Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with the banning of certain kinds of content. The root problem here is child abuse. Anybody abusing children, or financially supporting the abuse of children, is doing a seriously bad thing and this is what should be illegal. I'm highly skeptical that images on a hard drive can cause the abuse of children. That's the same kind of logic people used back in the 1970s to argue that playing D&D and listening to Kiss were going to result in a whole generation of Satan-worshippers. You could show a non-pedophiliac person the entire contents of that hard drive, and it wouldn't arouse them or make them want to go abuse children. Wouldn't make me go abuse kids. I'd probably cry a lot and go volunteer to help some kids[1]. So I am not convinced that the contents of this guy's hard drive are going to result in more kids being molested somehow. If anything, I think the opposite may be more likely. Access to porn is correlated to a reduction in rape. I don't know if this extends to pedophiles, but it sure seems entirely possible: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201601/ev... Would I want my kids hanging around somebody with a hard drive full of that stuff? Probably not, but I also wouldn't want them hanging around supporters of certain political parties either, and I don't think they should be rotting in prison indefinitely with no trial. ______ [1] I already do volunteer work; no need to send me illegal porn in order to get me off of my couch
  - Pharylon 9y ago
    But children were abused to create these photos.
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eternauta3k 9y ago

Forgetting a password can lead to life in prison. Reasonable.

JorgeGT 9y ago
Such a nice threatening tool too: - We just "found" this encrypted drive in your apartment. Too bad you don't "remember" the password uh? The judge won't like it!
sjy 9y ago
The judge in this case found that he was able to decrypt the hard drive but chose not to.
- mythrwy 9y ago
  I don't see how that would be possible to actually "find" short of him unlocking the drive. More like "the judge thinks". Which, we shouldn't be incarcerating people indefinitely for IMOP.

watwut 9y ago

Trump quite explicitely promised to double on police and prosecutor power. If what you want is better protection for accused, Trump is last person you should vote for.

sametmax 9y ago
He is probably not voting trump, only stating than when things go nuts, people do nutty things.
lagadu 9y ago
I think the argument is that the system already allowed for this before Trump so it's only natural that people angry at a system will vote towards who they perceive to be as far away from it as possible and Trump definitely hits the mark there, compared to the competition.
- watwut 9y ago
  Trump may be far away from system, but he boasted about supporting tough policies and whatever cops do repeatedly. Claiming that this is why people go for Trump is like claiming they vote him cause they want more benevolent pro-immigrant policies. This is literally approach pro-Trump voters want. They complaint is that system became weak and does not do power play like this often enough.

mcny 9y ago

Absolutely but I'll go further. Having something in your hard drive or book or whatever should never be a crime in itself. I mean in India it is a crime to carry an authentic map of India with you. What harm does the contents of an encrypted disk do to society? It is not like he was going out and trying to legalize child abuse. If the person was involved in child abuse, we must try to convict him absolutely but we should be able to do that without what's on the hard disk. Oh and while I have your attention I'd like the reader to look up something unrelated but still very important. Look up cfaa. If you're in the us, please help repeal it!

JohnBooty 9y ago
Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with the banning of certain kinds of content. The root problem here is child abuse. Anybody abusing children, or financially supporting the abuse of children, is doing a seriously bad thing and this is what should be illegal. I'm highly skeptical that images on a hard drive can cause the abuse of children. That's the same kind of logic people used back in the 1970s to argue that playing D&D and listening to Kiss were going to result in a whole generation of Satan-worshippers. You could show a non-pedophiliac person the entire contents of that hard drive, and it wouldn't arouse them or make them want to go abuse children. Wouldn't make me go abuse kids. I'd probably cry a lot and go volunteer to help some kids[1]. So I am not convinced that the contents of this guy's hard drive are going to result in more kids being molested somehow. If anything, I think the opposite may be more likely. Access to porn is correlated to a reduction in rape. I don't know if this extends to pedophiles, but it sure seems entirely possible: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201601/ev... Would I want my kids hanging around somebody with a hard drive full of that stuff? Probably not, but I also wouldn't want them hanging around supporters of certain political parties either, and I don't think they should be rotting in prison indefinitely with no trial. ______ [1] I already do volunteer work; no need to send me illegal porn in order to get me off of my couch
- Pharylon 9y ago
  But children were abused to create these photos.

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