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As someone who lives in Liverpool and works in London, I can see a lot of what you are saying but I don't think it is solely related to tech it's the entire eco

by kinlan 9y ago

As someone who lives in Liverpool and works in London, I can see a lot of what you are saying but I don't think it is solely related to tech it's the entire economy working off the idea that they can have a cost advantage over London and the broader southern region. My personal preference for a re-balancing is to make travel faster and more economical across the entire country, I live in Liverpool and spend 2 nights in London, it's a pain but the salary offsets the frustration, and I'd love to see people be able to make that choice and bring more competition to the regions; and to expand a fibre network so that remote work can be seen to be more feasible.

Brakenshire 9y ago
> My personal preference for a re-balancing is to make travel faster and more economical across the entire country, I live in Liverpool and spend 2 nights in London, it's a pain but the salary offsets the frustration You appear to be an example out of HS2's marketing literature! Out of interest, what are the attitudes to HS2 in Liverpool? Do people talk about it at all.
- kinlan 9y ago
  People talk about it thinking that it will come to Liverpool and it's not, as far as I understand it. The entire hs2 thing will probably bring hour commutes to London (not from Liverpool) but I full expect to have to pay a premium which means the value becomes questionable imo.
  - Brakenshire 9y ago
    Ah, yes, I just read about it, as you say HS2 doesn't connect directly into the city centre, that would require HS3, or the '20 miles more' link (http://www.20milesmore.com http://www.20milesmore.com) The ultimate time saving would be to reduce Liverpool to London travel from about 2h 10m to about 1h 10m, with the standard HS2 'classic compatible' network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_classic_network.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_c...) doing about half of that, and the HS3/20MM link the rest. The extra link also would provide much greater capacity improvements, whereas HS2 on its own wouldn't do too much on that account. Still, the HS2 improvement is worth having, and it seems inevitable that once that is built, the extra link will follow. Personally I think they should be building HS3 right now, in parallel.

by kinlan 9y ago

Brakenshire 9y ago

> My personal preference for a re-balancing is to make travel faster and more economical across the entire country, I live in Liverpool and spend 2 nights in London, it's a pain but the salary offsets the frustration You appear to be an example out of HS2's marketing literature! Out of interest, what are the attitudes to HS2 in Liverpool? Do people talk about it at all.

kinlan 9y ago
People talk about it thinking that it will come to Liverpool and it's not, as far as I understand it. The entire hs2 thing will probably bring hour commutes to London (not from Liverpool) but I full expect to have to pay a premium which means the value becomes questionable imo.
- Brakenshire 9y ago
  Ah, yes, I just read about it, as you say HS2 doesn't connect directly into the city centre, that would require HS3, or the '20 miles more' link (http://www.20milesmore.com http://www.20milesmore.com) The ultimate time saving would be to reduce Liverpool to London travel from about 2h 10m to about 1h 10m, with the standard HS2 'classic compatible' network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_classic_network.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_c...) doing about half of that, and the HS3/20MM link the rest. The extra link also would provide much greater capacity improvements, whereas HS2 on its own wouldn't do too much on that account. Still, the HS2 improvement is worth having, and it seems inevitable that once that is built, the extra link will follow. Personally I think they should be building HS3 right now, in parallel.