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At first I thought Marie Kondo hated stuff, and wanted me to be minimalist. That is absolutely wrong. She doesn't mind of you have stuff. She wants you to only

At first I thought Marie Kondo hated stuff, and wanted me to be minimalist. That is absolutely wrong. She doesn't mind of you have stuff. She wants you to only have stuff you enjoy. All those extra things that are like a load on you, weighing you down, get rid of those.

lucaspiller 9y ago
> only have stuff you enjoy In this case I'd have no clothes then. Maybe I'm weird, but I just see clothes as a utility, not as something that gives me joy.
- klodolph 9y ago
  It's obviously a simplification of what Kondo said. If everything could be condensed into a sentence she wouldn't have written an entire book.
  - bitJericho 9y ago
    Maybe she just did it for the money.
    - klodolph 9y ago
      And a book about spam filtering could be reduced to the sentence, "Just make sure users only get the email they actually want." Since the filtering of both email and personal possessions is rather more complicated than that, we end up with entire books written on the subject. For email you might use a combination of DKIM+DMARC, whitelisting, blacklisting, graylisting, string matching, and bayesian filtering based on word corpus. I guess nowadays you might be using more sophisticated ML techniques but I'm not really familiar with email. For personal possessions, Kondo recommends sorting items by category before discarding things, she has a bunch of tips on how to store things (don't get a bunch of boxes, don't store stuff in a pile so you never see whatever is at the bottom), and a bunch of tips for how to sort through each category of item. Common sense applies… I heard somewhere in this thread that someone throws anything out they haven't used in six months, but if I did that, I'd have to buy a winter jacket every year (and an air conditioner, camping gear, etc.). That doesn't mean the rule is bad, it just means it wasn't written like a computer program.
  - tonyedgecombe 9y ago
    Actually, I think most of the book could fit on a page, there really isn't that much in there.
    - Simon_says 9y ago
      Maybe she should get rid of the extra stuff in her book.
- foobarian 9y ago
  Maybe that should be restated as "only have stuff that induces a net positive of joy" so that having no clothes would presumably lead to a negative joy due to walking around naked and all the consequences of that.
- ktRolster 9y ago
  Maybe you can think of a new approach to clothing. You might be happier!
hkmurakami 9y ago
If you read the book, you'll notice that first and foremost it is a book of philosophy. The technique is really secondary.
- ktRolster 9y ago
  I would go further: it has a very strong religious/spiritual aspect. A manifestation of 神道 practice.

lucaspiller 9y ago

> only have stuff you enjoy In this case I'd have no clothes then. Maybe I'm weird, but I just see clothes as a utility, not as something that gives me joy.

klodolph 9y ago
It's obviously a simplification of what Kondo said. If everything could be condensed into a sentence she wouldn't have written an entire book.
- bitJericho 9y ago
  Maybe she just did it for the money.
  - klodolph 9y ago
    And a book about spam filtering could be reduced to the sentence, "Just make sure users only get the email they actually want." Since the filtering of both email and personal possessions is rather more complicated than that, we end up with entire books written on the subject. For email you might use a combination of DKIM+DMARC, whitelisting, blacklisting, graylisting, string matching, and bayesian filtering based on word corpus. I guess nowadays you might be using more sophisticated ML techniques but I'm not really familiar with email. For personal possessions, Kondo recommends sorting items by category before discarding things, she has a bunch of tips on how to store things (don't get a bunch of boxes, don't store stuff in a pile so you never see whatever is at the bottom), and a bunch of tips for how to sort through each category of item. Common sense applies… I heard somewhere in this thread that someone throws anything out they haven't used in six months, but if I did that, I'd have to buy a winter jacket every year (and an air conditioner, camping gear, etc.). That doesn't mean the rule is bad, it just means it wasn't written like a computer program.
- tonyedgecombe 9y ago
  Actually, I think most of the book could fit on a page, there really isn't that much in there.
  - Simon_says 9y ago
    Maybe she should get rid of the extra stuff in her book.
foobarian 9y ago
Maybe that should be restated as "only have stuff that induces a net positive of joy" so that having no clothes would presumably lead to a negative joy due to walking around naked and all the consequences of that.
ktRolster 9y ago
Maybe you can think of a new approach to clothing. You might be happier!

hkmurakami 9y ago

If you read the book, you'll notice that first and foremost it is a book of philosophy. The technique is really secondary.

ktRolster 9y ago
I would go further: it has a very strong religious/spiritual aspect. A manifestation of 神道 practice.