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I can't tell whether or not it's a joke. What I can clearly see is the whole reason I left working in tech: the field is stuffed full of deeply unpleasant and

I can't tell whether or not it's a joke. What I can clearly see is the whole reason I left working in tech: the field is stuffed full of deeply unpleasant and unkind people.

SwellJoe 9y ago
Yeah, I try to look past it, but we really are a bitter and angry community on average; anyone different, anyone less skilled, anyone who can be "othered", is treated with disdain by a lot of our peers. It never stops being disappointing...though I also understand the feeling that leads to it. Some days I genuinely hate my projects users for being so utterly helpless and having bizarre mental models for how things work. As I've gotten older and, I think, kinder, I try to take a break when I feel like ranting or condescending at a person rather than helping. I don't always succeed, but I wish more people would try.
- mto 9y ago
  That's unfortunately true. I found people in research to be much more open-minded than in sw development (at the same time they were always a bit too outgoing for me :)). But not sure if it's much better in most other disciplines. Tech people seem to be pretty honest at least. Compared to the backstabbing and cutthroat cultures and hierarchies in business, law and medicine (there even literally). Elitism can also be found in basically every other field... So well. Perhaps it's just the people
parenthephobia 9y ago
I see no comments on the PR that I'd describe as unpleasant or unkind.
- SwellJoe 9y ago
  Yeah, folks are mostly being kind or just continuing the joke in this thread. There's a couple of questionable ones, but nothing too awful. I've seen much worse, including in the Linux kernel community (which is kind of a mixed bag, but in my past experience reasonably nice to newbies).
trapperkeeper74 9y ago
Technical people, myself included, tend to be too arrogant, negative and black-white thinking. I don't associate with anyone whom dumps their emotional/work politics garbage or badmouths things/people/employers/etc. Add some motherfucking positivity! :)

I can't tell whether or not it's a joke. What I can clearly see is the whole reason I left working in tech: the field is stuffed full of deeply unpleasant and unkind people.

SwellJoe 9y ago

Yeah, I try to look past it, but we really are a bitter and angry community on average; anyone different, anyone less skilled, anyone who can be "othered", is treated with disdain by a lot of our peers. It never stops being disappointing...though I also understand the feeling that leads to it. Some days I genuinely hate my projects users for being so utterly helpless and having bizarre mental models for how things work. As I've gotten older and, I think, kinder, I try to take a break when I feel like ranting or condescending at a person rather than helping. I don't always succeed, but I wish more people would try.

mto 9y ago
That's unfortunately true. I found people in research to be much more open-minded than in sw development (at the same time they were always a bit too outgoing for me :)). But not sure if it's much better in most other disciplines. Tech people seem to be pretty honest at least. Compared to the backstabbing and cutthroat cultures and hierarchies in business, law and medicine (there even literally). Elitism can also be found in basically every other field... So well. Perhaps it's just the people

parenthephobia 9y ago

I see no comments on the PR that I'd describe as unpleasant or unkind.

SwellJoe 9y ago
Yeah, folks are mostly being kind or just continuing the joke in this thread. There's a couple of questionable ones, but nothing too awful. I've seen much worse, including in the Linux kernel community (which is kind of a mixed bag, but in my past experience reasonably nice to newbies).

trapperkeeper74 9y ago

Technical people, myself included, tend to be too arrogant, negative and black-white thinking. I don't associate with anyone whom dumps their emotional/work politics garbage or badmouths things/people/employers/etc. Add some motherfucking positivity! :)