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Do they really need to conduct a study to determine that spewing black smoke into the air hurts human beings? The Coal lobby must love Trump. Glad millennials

Do they really need to conduct a study to determine that spewing black smoke into the air hurts human beings? The Coal lobby must love Trump. Glad millennials won't work for Coal or Oil.

wahern 9y ago
I don't have an opinion on whether the government should complete the study, but one reason for doing so is that such government agency studies are admissible in court to prove facts. The rules of evidence are complex, but long story short such government investigative studies can be extremely valuable for both plaintiffs and defendants by making it easier and cheaper to meet evidentiary burdens of production and persuasion. If an administration believes a study's findings would be detrimental to a group it wishes to protect, it might choose to terminate the study before it gets published. Here's a brief legal article on the subject: https://www.pbwt.com/content/uploads/2015/07/Admission-of-Government-Agency-Reports.pdf https://www.pbwt.com/content/uploads/2015/07/Admission-of-Go...
r00fus 9y ago
Some millennials certainly will work in the petroleum business. They get paid good money in the extraction industry and are willing to train you & keep you certified. That it's destroying the environment - well I'm sure the folks so employed will be as happy for their jobs as the ones on hedge funds front-running the entire market or those in big pharma who research and market the next addictive pain-killer.
stevenwoo 9y ago
You're probably premature on the oil bit, the latest oil boom is over but it was a good run for high paying, manual labor without any education requirements. Coal jobs had the double whammy of cheaper energy sources for power reducing demand and replacement of mining veins to mechanized mountaintop removal reducing need for manual labor. Oil demand will probably come back for the same jobs - until they can mechanize oil/natural gas drilling like mountaintop coal removal.
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greglindahl 9y ago
That's not what the study in question was about. It was about the health effects of dumping mountaintops into adjacent valleys, causing the streams to turn acidic.

Do they really need to conduct a study to determine that spewing black smoke into the air hurts human beings? The Coal lobby must love Trump. Glad millennials won't work for Coal or Oil.

wahern 9y ago

I don't have an opinion on whether the government should complete the study, but one reason for doing so is that such government agency studies are admissible in court to prove facts. The rules of evidence are complex, but long story short such government investigative studies can be extremely valuable for both plaintiffs and defendants by making it easier and cheaper to meet evidentiary burdens of production and persuasion. If an administration believes a study's findings would be detrimental to a group it wishes to protect, it might choose to terminate the study before it gets published. Here's a brief legal article on the subject: https://www.pbwt.com/content/uploads/2015/07/Admission-of-Government-Agency-Reports.pdf https://www.pbwt.com/content/uploads/2015/07/Admission-of-Go...

r00fus 9y ago

Some millennials certainly will work in the petroleum business. They get paid good money in the extraction industry and are willing to train you & keep you certified. That it's destroying the environment - well I'm sure the folks so employed will be as happy for their jobs as the ones on hedge funds front-running the entire market or those in big pharma who research and market the next addictive pain-killer.

stevenwoo 9y ago

You're probably premature on the oil bit, the latest oil boom is over but it was a good run for high paying, manual labor without any education requirements. Coal jobs had the double whammy of cheaper energy sources for power reducing demand and replacement of mining veins to mechanized mountaintop removal reducing need for manual labor. Oil demand will probably come back for the same jobs - until they can mechanize oil/natural gas drilling like mountaintop coal removal.

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greglindahl 9y ago

That's not what the study in question was about. It was about the health effects of dumping mountaintops into adjacent valleys, causing the streams to turn acidic.