Vega 56 and 64 would be decent, but AMD basically overclocked them way too far past the point of diminishing returns out of the box, in order to make them, on p

Vega 56 and 64 would be decent, but AMD basically overclocked them way too far past the point of diminishing returns out of the box, in order to make them, on paper, beat the GTX 1070 and 1080 respectively. If put on a power-saver profile, they're suddenly much more respectable. But AMD keep gambling that a loud, power-hungry and hot by default card will do well if it narrowly beats the closest NVidia card in benchmarks. They should perhaps stop making this gamble. Or so this guy claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavuWT17X48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavuWT17X48. Seems to be borne out by reviewers' general impressions though.